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Forum topic by ArborBustie posted 09-25-2011 11:29 PM 2282 views 1 time favorited 29 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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ArborBustie

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09-25-2011 11:29 PM

The arbor shaft of my brand new 10” Steel City cabinet saw recently broke into two pieces. The problem is exactly as described earlier by Speednork back in 2009. The very tip of the arbor has shorn off.

To summarize: I affixed and ran a dado blade for the purpose of creating a suitable blade slit for a 0” dado insert. After successfully creating a good slit in the insert, I accidentally ripped the tip of the arbor off as I was attempting to remove the blade from the arbor. Steel City sent me a free replacement part and asked me to return the old arbor assembly.

My problem is that I cannot seem to remove the old arbor shaft. There are no instructions anywhere on how to do this. Does anyone have an idea? I have removed the side access panel. I have removed the back jam nut (176), removed the arbor pulley (177) taken out the arbor spacer (179) and the key (178). I expected the thing to either push or pull out of the remaining assembly without much drama. However, after hammering the arbor towards the blade and then doing the opposite, I have not made any progress in either direction. It seems like the ball bearings won’t budge from their positions in the assembly. What should I do?

Clark


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Mark Shymanski

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#1 posted 09-26-2011 05:15 AM

You broke the arbor as you were taking off the blade? I would run not walk back to the vendor that sold you that, get my money back and never look at that model/brand again.

If they can’t/won’t return your money I’d make sure they did the work at their expense. You should not be able to break of the tip of your arbor just by removing the blade…!!!

-- "Checking for square? What madness is this! The cabinet is square because I will it to be so!" Jeremy Greiner LJ Topic#20953 2011 Feb 2

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ajosephg

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#2 posted 09-26-2011 05:38 AM

I’m not sure, but it may need to be pressed out.

One thing that I’m sure of though, and it is that you absolutely should not be pounding on it. You could cause major damage to other parts of the saw. (Hopefully the pounding you have already indulged in didn’t hurt anything.)

Mark is on target as well.

-- Joe

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fussy

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#3 posted 09-26-2011 08:17 AM

Both of the above are right. My opinion, if they don’t SEND ssomeone to your shop to fix it, or send you a NEW saw at no cost telling you to keep the old one for parts as it is too expensive for them to PICK UP, I would haul their asses before Judge Judy. I’m serious. No way it should have broken. Had it done so while under power, your widow could be talking to them. I think in this case a letter from a junk-yard dog attorney would be benificial.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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James Clapperton

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#4 posted 09-26-2011 08:42 AM

Holy moly! That is scary as hell. Give that thing back to them, pronto, if you like having your fingers attached to your hands. That’s lame, but I’ve heard great things about Steel City. I hope this is an isolated incident.

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bluekingfisher

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#5 posted 09-26-2011 11:13 AM

I successfully replaced an arbor, it will need to be pressed out, I used gear pullers purchased from an auto store to get the bearings off the arbor shaft. If you decide to go this route you will also need some spare circlips as they ping all over the place when you try to refit them.

This said, if it is a new saw, get them back to replace the saw OR get rid of it and buy something with a proven track record, may cost you a few more dollars but what price can you put on your health/LIFE.

Good luck

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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Bertha

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#6 posted 09-26-2011 03:33 PM

I’d be asking them when their tech was arriving at your shop to do this. There are at least 50 fights here about flesh sensing technology and your arbor broke? Given that this is likely a defect at the raw material provider, I’m surprised Steel City didn’t have a new saw on its way to you after the first couple of minutes of your conversation. This seems to be treading quite near to a strict liability sort of thing. They expect you to reinstall the replacement part as well? Absurd. I seem to recall another account of this type of breakage. I’ll be anxiously awaiting the outcome of this one.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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pickles

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#7 posted 09-27-2011 12:41 AM

How old is this saw? When it happened to mine they assured me it was an isolated issue and were confident in the replacement part. If this is a new saw then I’m worried about mine.

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Howie

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#8 posted 09-27-2011 03:50 AM

The arbor shaft of my brand new 10” Steel City cabinet saw recently broke into two pieces.
This sucker would be headed back to Steel City in a heartbeat.
If you fix it and it breaks again they will tell you that you improperly installed the part. Where’s the warranty?
This would make me avoid SC. Hell Harbor Freight has a better warranty than that.

-- Life is good.

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Woodmaster1

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#9 posted 09-27-2011 04:24 AM

Steel city has five year warranty hold them to it. There is no way you should do the repairs and void the warranty because of something you did wrong.

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Howie

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#10 posted 09-27-2011 11:37 PM

Steel City..are you listening? This isn’t good publicity for you.

-- Life is good.

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cutmantom

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#11 posted 09-27-2011 11:54 PM

there might be snap rings holding the bearings in place

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bigkev

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#12 posted 09-27-2011 11:54 PM

You think maybe there’s a reason they want you to send that part back to them pronto?

-- Kevin, South Carolina

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ArborBustie

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#13 posted 09-28-2011 12:13 AM

So a quick update. The folks at Steel City recommend that I work with my local Steel City vendor on getting the arbor removed and replaced. However, the local vendor says that they can’t send a service tech guy out to me—I’d need to somehow haul the 600 pound saw to them!

Apparently my Steel City warranty covers parts and labor, but does not include shipping or transportation costs and does not provide stipulations for a service guy coming on-site. Can you imagine? How am I going to haul that saw somewhere? The nearest vendor is 40 miles away, I am not an olympic body builder, and I drive a honda civic coupe.

Do I really have a brand new, completely useless Steel City saw?

To be continued…

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ChuckV

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#14 posted 09-28-2011 12:16 AM

That is unreasonable. When did you buy the saw? Can you get your credit card company involved?

-- “That it will never come again / Is what makes life so sweet. ” ― Emily Dickinson

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BTKS

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#15 posted 09-28-2011 12:32 AM

ArborBustie,
My arbor shaft did the exact same thing, except as I was mounting a 7/8 dado setup. Of course this was on Thursday afternoon before they closed for four days to observe Easter. I called at the first available time and the tech, I believe, Steve walked me through step by step. I had the parts blowup in front of me for the conversation.
There is an access panel on the left side of the saw and the motor access door on the right. Between these two doors and the blade insert there is plenty of room to work on it without removing the top.
Once the retaining nuts are removed, a slight bump on the shaft end removes the shaft and right bearing. The shaft should have came with that bearing already mounted.
Steel City said they had a batch of arbors that were not hardened correctly and they didn’t even want the old shaft back. This repair is simple and well within the realm of basic remove and replace mechanics.
My repair was one and half or two and half years ago. No problems so far and the saw runs like new.
Consider yourself luck, my closest dealer is about 100 miles away.
I did call them again about the power switch that was buzzing after shutoff. They sent a new one. Unplugged one, remounted the new assembly and plugged it back in. I know, two breakdowns on a saw is unthinkable. They all come out of the same factory or the factory next door in China. I would have to look at my records to see the exact tech I spoke with.
I still think, for the dollar to dollar comparison of saws, I got a good deal. I have not heard of any manufacture having zero faults. The real question is, do they back up their product? So far, SC has.
Hope this helps.
BTKS

Just read the reamainder of your post, oops. I would make sure there isn’t a split ring or retainer in either side. Spray some penetrating oil, let sit for a couple hours and try again. Good luck!

-- "Man's ingenuity has outrun his intelligence" (Joseph Wood Krutch)

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