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Forum topic by parttimer posted 09-25-2011 07:29 PM 772 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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parttimer

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09-25-2011 07:29 PM

Topic tags/keywords: plane stanley antique vintage ebay recondition refurbish adivce

Alrighty so I just built my first workbench and I realized I can’t take photos of it and post it on LJ if I don’t have at least 3 fancy hand planes to sit on top of it.

Just kidding.

But really – I am pretty serious about spending some money on some old stanleys and I’m looking for a little advice.

My plan is to buy a full set of planes on eBay and then fully recondition them to usable condition. Now- when I say recondition, I mean clean them up, remove rust, true the bottom and sides, and re-jappan the tops. I don’t have the resources or skills to build new knobs or fix/weld broken metal parts.

That being said, there are plenty of good planes out there that fit into my category. My question for you guys is whether or not I have a reasonable idea of what I plan on paying for these things. So, here’s a list of what I want, and what I’m willing to pay (including shipping). Please speak from your experience and let me know if I’m being unreasonable because I’m completely new to this and still trying to figure it out.

Bedrocks:
604 or 604c: $50
605 or 605c: $50
607/c or 608/c: $75

Baileys:
no. 4/c: $20
no. 5/c: $20
no. 7/c or no. 8/c: $30

Specialties:
no. 40 (scrub): $25
no. 71 (router): $20
no. 45 (combination): $25

I haven’t decided between the bedrocks and baileys yet. To me it seems that given these prices I could obtain a full user set of tools for less than $200 with the cost of just a few hours of work. Please let me know if you think I should raise/drop any of my price expectations. I’m willing to wait up to a month or two before buying anything, and these prices are based solely on what I found while browsing ebay last night.


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SamuelP

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#1 posted 09-25-2011 07:44 PM

Bedrocks:
604 or 604c: $50 Unreasonable
605 or 605c: $50 Unreasonable
607/c or 608/c: $75 Unreasonable

Baileys:
no. 4/c: $20 Reasonable
no. 5/c: $20 Unreasonable
no. 7/c or no. 8/c: $30 Unreasonable

Specialties:
no. 40 (scrub): $25 Unreasonable
no. 71 (router): $20 reasonable
no. 45 (combination): $25 You got lucky

You should start at flea-markets garage sales and antique stores.

Junk stores are the best, but I see fewer and fewer of them. Also try Restore stores, thrift stores.

It takes time, just be patient.

-- -Sam - Tampa, FL- "A man who carries a cat by the tail learns somthing he can in no other way" -Mark Twain

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Tedstor

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#2 posted 09-25-2011 08:15 PM

My advice.
Get a 4, a 5, and a good block plane. I’d go with the Bailey line (or Record). Stay away from rust buckets. Buy something that looks to be in great shape; even if you pay a premium. A poor (restorable) condition no. 5 might be $20, where as a great condition might be $50. The extra $30 will allow you to avoid a lot of headaches and surprises. I have a Sargent Fore plane that I got for $15. I thought I got a great deal until I realized how many issues it had. It now sits on a shelf waiting for me to strip off the totes for use on another plane or jig.
I’ve bought plenty of stuff off ebay, but I personally wouldn’t buy a plane. There are enough antique store in my area that I’m bound to find what I need without too much fuss. Sure, I’ll pay more, but I also get to look at and touch what I’m buying.

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Don W

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#3 posted 09-26-2011 12:27 AM

I think Sam is on the money. Your prices on 60x are about 1/3 what ebay prices will be. I buy most of mine at flea markets or antiques shops but have gotten few buys off ebay. I like to restore plans so I look for the cruddiest I can find. I’ve bought #4 for $5. Here is about average prices in my opiniuon (again assuming restorable)

Bedrocks:
604 or 604c: $50 Unreasonable
605 or 605c: $50 Unreasonable
607/c or 608/c: $75 Unreasonable

Baileys:
no. 4/c: $25
no. 5/c: $40
no. 7/ : $65

Specialties:
no. 40 (scrub): $125
no. 71 (router): $35
no. 45 (combination): $150

You can go to ebay and search for closed actions, that will give you some examples of what the planes go for.

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WayneC

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#4 posted 09-26-2011 12:33 AM

Also on the Bedrocks…. Stick to the square side models… The round side bedrocks are pretty much the same as the Baileys with the exception of an increased collector value. (This is pretty much a bad thing when your looking for users)

You can probably find planes in your original range at flea markets and antique stores if your willing to do some research on how to determine the age of planes (type studies) and are patient.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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StumpyNubs

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#5 posted 09-26-2011 12:46 AM

I don’t know who this Stanley Bailey guy is, but I think a coat of stain will keep your wood from being plain…

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 09-26-2011 02:51 AM

Stumpy, you’ve been hitting the birthday wine, haven’t you?

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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SamuelP

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#7 posted 09-26-2011 03:01 AM

Stumpy- Don’t forget the Oil.

The best thing about restoring planes, is that you learn how they work and can understand them better than a plane you pull out of a box and use.

-- -Sam - Tampa, FL- "A man who carries a cat by the tail learns somthing he can in no other way" -Mark Twain

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WayneC

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#8 posted 09-26-2011 03:05 AM

Also, you may want to consider dropping the #40. It is redundant with the #5 for doing rough stock removal….

I’m not sure how useful you would find the #45.

You may want to consider getting or making a shoulder plane.

Also as TedStor said, a good adjustable mouth block plane such as a #9 1/2, #18, 60 1/2 or 65 would be useful. I prefer low angle planes and knuckle block planes and it just happens that the #65 is my personal favorite.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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StumpyNubs

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#9 posted 09-26-2011 03:10 AM

No wine, but I have been snorting walnut sawdust all day though…

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