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GMman

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09-20-2011 02:23 PM

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I find it so funny the way Americans security are being brain wash.
We live next to the border and regular American people are fine with us Canadian but any security people, border officers, police so on it all went to their head.
But on 9/11 went they needed to land 1000s of planes they were clad to have Canada to land where people were taken in their private homes for days.
I was talking with a few store owners near the border here and I was told that if it was not for Canadian coming across to shop they would have to close down, they (store owners) also don’t like the way we are treated at the borders.
I know some of you are going to say well stay the hell home but here next to the border we are friends and most are related.
Most Custom officers have the same last name as we have here.
It is getting to a point that lots of people quit crossing and we can see the movie theaters are closing and lots of large box stores are just going out of biasness, security is hurting the US economy at lease close to the border.
On the other hand Americans coming to Canada are welcome with open arms no fuss at the border at all.


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VinnieP

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#1 posted 09-20-2011 03:11 PM

Ok.

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HorizontalMike

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#2 posted 09-20-2011 03:35 PM

The GOP has been quite successful in their propaganda program to create and maximize the level of fear in America. IMO, it has torn this country apart and threatens to turn it fascist, having the rich 1% with all the money and financial slavery for the remaining.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#3 posted 09-20-2011 04:07 PM

Re:HorizontalMike says:
The GOP has been quite successful in their propaganda

Well, at least the USA is still the best in one thing, propaganda . People don’t even recognize it, nor acknowledge how influential it is.

Scary, how well it works….

-- “The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt

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#4 posted 09-20-2011 04:09 PM

Both parties have contributed their share to this bizarre mess, and once you get a government agency in
place, they do their best to grow and create a need for their services. I thought the government was
working on special cards for the people that lived in the border areas that would enable them to cross back
and forth without any trouble, but was probably too good an idea and would solve too many problems.

-- As ever, Gus-the 77 yr young apprentice carpenter

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GMman

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#5 posted 09-20-2011 04:14 PM

Apparently you dirty damn Canadians are corrupting us sweet innocent Americans and the Guards are just there to keep the big germs out.

You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.

Why is USA going down hill people like you

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GMman

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#6 posted 09-20-2011 04:17 PM

Bluepine38 you are 100% right

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#7 posted 09-20-2011 04:19 PM

We’ve never experienced any hassles crossing either border (Canadian or Mexican) from either direction.
We have used the crossings at Ft. Francis and Emerson on numerous occasions. We’ve only been detained and searched coming back from extend stays in Mexico. But, I wasn’t upset about that, either. Although, once they confiscated a dozen eggs.
Usually, it’s just “Where are you coming from”, and/or “Are you American citizens?”.

-- Gene 'The true soldier fights not because he hates what is in front of him, but because he loves what is behind him.' G. K. Chesterton

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#8 posted 09-20-2011 04:43 PM

Regarding special cards for those living near the border, it’ll never work. Once you allow exceptions to a problem you negate the solution. That’s like the idiots who get upset when children are screened at airports. If children weren’t screened where do you think the bad guys would hide the bad stuff??

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mtenterprises

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#9 posted 09-20-2011 04:46 PM

Living in Niagara Falls with our 4 local crossings, including the Peace Bridge in Buffalo, I agree with all that has been said. This problem has been there for more than 20 years. Going to Canada IS (or was) easy getting back in our home, the good old USA is a PITA. As a locksmith I often worked for Customs and the Boarder Patrol and boy do they rake people over the coals. I know they enjoy their jobs hasseling people, I’ve seen it! Today you either need an enhanced drivers license or a passport to get across. I have neither so I just stay here. To go for a ride around here you basically have 2 drictions to go, east or south. You can go north to Lake Ontario. But it makes me feel boxed in that I cannot go west or further north easily when I can see a mile away there is more land to explore.
MIKE

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Mark

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#10 posted 09-20-2011 04:47 PM

yep….gm, thats the same thing here. I live right on the border of windsor and detroit. They’re just getting rediculous with customs. Its like 9/11 scared them poopless.

-- M.K.

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#11 posted 09-20-2011 04:47 PM

“Apparently you dirty damn Canadians are corrupting us sweet innocent Americans and the Guards are just there to keep the big germs out.”

I’m almost 100% sure he was being sarcastic. I’ve lived in New Orleans and Albuquerque and I can tell you that I’m much more scared of armed criminals than drug runners and “terrorists” crossing the US/Can border. I don’t always agree with Horizontal but I tend to in this example. I’m a right wing fear spreader but the propaganda is getting a bit tiring.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#12 posted 09-20-2011 04:53 PM

@GMman
I agree with Bertha, GMman, CR was using sarcasm, and it doesn’t always show in the text.

“Apparently you dirty damn Canadians are corrupting us sweet innocent Americans and the Guards are just there to keep the big germs out.

You don’t have a clue what you’re talking about.”

Other than that your spot on…......

-- Mel,

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SSMDad

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#13 posted 09-20-2011 05:24 PM

GMman, it irritates me also. I’ve been back and forth to various parts and coasts of Canada many times and NEVER ONCE been treated with anything besides courtesy from the Canadian border guards but when it was time to return, man oh man, have I caught some kind of nonsense or attitude from a US border guard. Funny thing is that half of these trips happened BEFORE 9/11! People who claim it’s because of the attacks should have gone earlier to see that it’s the same now, only we need stupid passports to walk across a line on a map.

Just wanted to say I agree with you. It’s a shame and really makes no sense at all to alienate or penalize people who’ve only been good to us and the best ally we have in North or South America!

Just an extra note: When I was young and on my 3rd trip I went to Toronto and stopped back in St. Catherine on the way home. While having coffee at a bookshop a man asked if he could share my table so I said of course. We talked for quite a bit and he relayed a story to me about how he’d met another American guy one day and after they’d talked the American said (and I still remember this distinctly) ”If we [being the US] wanted to, we could take Canada in one day [ie. take over militarily]” to which the Canadian responded “Hm. probably so but why would you want to do that?” This comment pretty quickly shut the other guy up.

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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Roger Clark aka Rex

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#14 posted 09-20-2011 05:30 PM

I have never been to Canada, although it has always been one of my places to go to, and from past experiences of entering the US from overseas, I can attest some heavy handed paranoia by immigration and customs officials. I also believe that terrorists take great delight at seeing the paranoia and subsequent suspicion of everyone who enters the US, it’s part of their threat. I do wholeheartedly agree that our borders should be secure and that entry should not be such a hassle for “friendly” folks, it is all a question of balance.
What I do find quite alarming is that the authorities have many electronic and other methods at their disposal, which I guess sometimes they don’t believe and make a “good guy’s” entry a PINTA.

5 years ago we had a couple we have known for years visit us for a 2 week vacation from England. During their stay we ventured across to Mexico for a few hours, but when we came back to enter the US, all hell broke loose. My wife and I got through OK but our friends from England did not and were put into a holding area. We could not speak to each other and we could not find out what the problem was, or anything.
Finally they were released after we signed a document stating they were close friends on vacation. The problem had been that when they first arrived at DFW airport the officials had used their date entry stamp and not changed the date to reflect the current year, the stamp showed they had entered a year earlier and they would be well over their 6 month allotted visitor’s visa, even though they had their airline tickets with them showing inbound and outbound flights. You would think that DFW officials and Border officials would be on the same page, as we found out that this error had been found at DFW because other visitors had been stopped with the same date error and this error was posted to all border officials. The worst part of all this is that our friends had to pay a fine and were changed an entry fee, they were extremely annoyed about it all, and I guess they won’t come again.

-- Roger-R, Republic of Texas. "Always look on the Bright Side of Life" - An eyeball to eyeball confrontation with a blind person is as complete waste of Time.

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SSMDad

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#15 posted 09-20-2011 06:11 PM

That’s really sad Roger. To pay all money to fly here on vacation then given such a headache trying to get back. I’m sure they didn’t just keep this experience to themselves either so our view in other’s eyes continues to degrade.

Just a thought while on it but one of our studies in University was on Barry Glassner’s book “The Culture of Fear: Why Americans Are Afraid of the Wrong Things.” For anyone who hasn’t read it it’s at least worth checking out in a library (ya know those places [fewer now] where they actually have REAL books on the shelves, haha). Gives one something to think about anyway.

-- Chris ~~Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past."

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