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meneldor

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12-15-2018 01:41 AM

Topic tags/keywords: table saw beginner recommendations delta grizzly jet tablesaw question

I have read numerous posts on this forum and reddit about beginner/garage shop table saw recommendations and appear to be suffering from paralysis by analysis. I am looking for a recommendation for a table saw under $1500 that fits my situation detailed below.

Background: I picked Up woodworking as only a hobby about a year ago. I started out using hand tools but have recently acquired a jointer and thickness planer to speed up the labor intensive processes of flattening/paralleling stock. I don’t have a particular style or specific items I always make. I just make whatever seems fun/challenging/useful at the moment. I don’t use it as a business nor do I intend to. I still fully intend on doing most joinery by hand but am looking at a table saw to make more efficient use of my limited time available to be in the garage. Mainly to reduce the time and labor intensive task of ripping down boards by hand and planing to parallel.

Budget: $1500 (less is preferable obviously)

Saws looked at: Delta 36-725 (seems very good for the price) Grizzly 0771z (very mixed reviews) Jet Proshop 2 30” (not many reviews but jet seems to be a respected). I’m not tied to these 3 in particular but they seem to be common saws that are brought up for my situation and price range. I have looked at full cabinet saws but due to the nature of the military and frequency of moves the weight and portability of those are a concern.

What would your recommendations be given your experience and knowledge?

I look forward to hearing your suggestions! Please let me know if any more information is needed to assist.


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Boomer34

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#1 posted 12-15-2018 01:46 AM

I am in the same boat…and have researched and am leaning to these same saws. It’s hard to not look a few hundred dollars above the current one you are leaning to, and think you should just make the jump up for the added features. I am probably deciding between that Delta and the Grizzly…unless I find something used and quality on CL/FB.

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#2 posted 12-15-2018 03:01 AM

I am a hobbyist woodworker, and Jet and grizzly have become my go to tools for my shop. Good quality and bang for the buck.
With your budget, and the tools listed, I would go with the grizzly table saw.
I like the grizzly out of the saws listed, Best options/features for the price. And when it comes time to move, all three saws would get strapped to a pallet. I think the full cabinet Grizzly would handle moving the best.
I agree with Boomer on the added features. $200 more for the G0833p. And used table saws can be great finds. Just make sure you get a used saw that is new enough to have a riving knife.

-- John

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bgilb

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#3 posted 12-15-2018 04:07 AM

I’d save up 700$ more or so and get a sawstop

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MikeDilday

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#4 posted 12-15-2018 04:33 AM



I d save up 700$ more or so and get a sawstop

- bgilb

Ditto on the Sawstop.

-- Michael Dilday, Suffolk, Va.

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#5 posted 12-15-2018 01:06 PM

If you have 220v, or can get it easily, the Grizzly G1023RL pushes the budget by $10, but is substantially more saw than the hybrids. It’ll weigh close to 150# more than the hybrids, but is well worth that trade off IMO….none of these is overly portable anyway, so all will take some effort during a move. Actual footprint is about the same for all of them. The G1023RL is a full step up in class, and is a well proven saw lifetime saw. It’s got much beefier innerds, a beefier fence, and nearly twice the horsepower of the hybrids. Simply put, it’ll effortlessly plow through just about anything you’ll through at it for the rest of your life.

If for someone reason the G1023RL isn’t attainable, the Jet Proshop has the best track record of those hybrids.

G1023RL guts:

Hybrid guts:

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#6 posted 12-15-2018 01:51 PM

Thanks for the responses! I don’t have 220 in my garage. While it would be relatively easy to get it installed I don’t want to invest in adding 220 just to have to move when PCS time approaches. Odds are wherever my next move will be will not have a 220 circuit either.

In reference to comment about sawstop: that is definitely an option I’m willing to entertain but would need a bit more time to save. Particularly would look at the contractor and 30 inch 1.75 cabinet. Braking system aside, is the saw worth the over $1k leap from, for example, the G0833p?

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#7 posted 12-15-2018 03:49 PM

If you ignore the value of the safety feature, then you can buy the same woodworking capability for a lot less money or you can buy a more capable saw for the same price. The safety feature isn’t worth it to me because I have already avoided accidents for over 40 years and I practice the same safety procedures I learned in high school in the 1960’s. If you are new to this, Sawstop might be of more value.

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#8 posted 12-15-2018 04:17 PM


..... Braking system aside, is the saw worth the over $1k leap from, for example, the G0833p?

- meneldor

Not IMHO. The stock configuration of the contractor saw gives up some features….it comes with a fairly lame fence for a saw in this price range, plus has stamped steel wings vs solid cast iron, and has the outboard motor configuration. The safety feature would be the main reason I’d buy this particular model, not its value relative to other saws. I could skimp and get by with steel wings if I had to, but a good fence is a basic “must have” on any decent saw IMO. By the time you fit the saw with a decent fence and upgrade the wings, you’ve added several hundred dollars in addition to the premium already paid for the safety brake. At that point the PCS starts becoming a more attractive value (...again, just my opinion).

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#9 posted 12-15-2018 04:49 PM

FIRST THINGS FIRST

How big of a space do you have?

What kind of woodworking do you want to do. Cabinets and bigger things or smaller boxes and toys?

Do you have 220 VAC?

Remember that you will need to buy saw blades and a better miter gauge

Bottom line is are you looking at a cabinet saw or a good smaller saw.

If you are doing bigger projects with plywood, you may want to have a circular saw and edge guide along with a table saw.

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SteveMcG

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#10 posted 12-15-2018 04:54 PM

I own the Grizzly hybrid, which I purchased after similar and considerable paralysis. No regrets. Plus, the savings allowed me to pick up a decent dust collector, too.

I cut my finger open on a craftsman contractor model once. Even that wouldn’t make me triple the cost for the saw stop. Be safe, use the riving knife, keep your blade low over the stock, know where your hands are, and KEEP FOCUS. Then own up to your mistakes. Saw stop’s not for me at that cost. Just my opinion, of course. If one of my daughters decided they wanted to play in the shop (hint: they don’t, despite my pleas, threats, asks and begging) then yeah, I may have another opinion, so… consider your legacy, too, when making that decision.

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meneldor

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#11 posted 12-15-2018 05:09 PM

Redoak, I have a 2 car garage but shop is only half of it. I don’t have 220 and I don’t plan on adding it due to the frequent moves as a member of the military. I am looking for a smaller saw, hybrid or similar as opposed to a full cabinet at least at this particular point in time. I have a circular saw with edge guide so panel breakdowns can be done that way. Honestly I don’t utilize plywood for much outside of shop projects.

Steve, do you have the G0771Z? If so, what are your thoughts on it and the fence?

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TheFridge

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#12 posted 12-15-2018 05:11 PM

A true cabinet saw will take up the same footprint as any other saw you are considering. You probably have to pull the fence and motor off when moving so it won’t be that bad to move around will a dolly. I pull the tops fence and motor to move one.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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moke

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#13 posted 12-15-2018 05:51 PM

The problem I have with grizzly is you are subject to their delivery network…I have two tools for them, one was delivered by a good conscientious person ant the other by an idiot. Who wasn’t there when they said they would and damaged it….while Grizzly has a good Customer Service, you are still waiting anohter week or two and doing the repair yourself.

I have a saw stop and love it. But, we have endless arguments whether the saw is worth it and how much the braking system adds and on and on….bottom line is buy what you think is right for you. Yes the braking system adds more, but what about the saw? Power is major consideration too…...so is the fence…..look them over, gather data, like you are doing here and make an informed decision. If safety is a bigger deal…..get the saw stop, if not get someting else. The politics of it should be put aside, they sold saw stop about a year ago and the original owner is gone…..how long do we need to beat that drum?

My point is I would buy from a local brick and mortar store that is in or close to your community that has delivery with a Tommy lift. I only bought the grizzly things because they were not carried around here or close….(they were metal working tools). The brick and mortar stores need your dollars to stay around. They are fighting a two front war…the internet and the big box boys…..and lets face it, for most of us they are handy to have around, even though you may have to pay a little more.

Just my .02….....

-- Mike

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#14 posted 12-15-2018 06:39 PM



If you have 220v, or can get it easily, the Grizzly G1023RL pushes the budget by $10, but is substantially more saw than the hybrids. It ll weigh close to 150# more than the hybrids, but is well worth that trade off IMO….none of these is overly portable anyway, so all will take some effort during a move. Actual footprint is about the same for all of them. The G1023RL is a full step up in class, and is a well proven saw lifetime saw. It s got much beefier innerds, a beefier fence, and nearly twice the horsepower of the hybrids. Simply put, it ll effortlessly plow through just about anything you ll through at it for the rest of your life.

If for someone reason the G1023RL isn t attainable, the Jet Proshop has the best track record of those hybrids.

G1023RL guts:

Hybrid guts:

- knotscott

Only thing I could add to that is until Dec 30, the 1023RL is only 1395.00 plus shipping, so it would eat a 1500 dollar bill, plus 10 bux, and that saw is a lot of bang for that buck. I currently have a Canadian General 350, which is right tilt, and older than the current crop with riving knives. I’m thinking I will sell my General, and buy the Grizz.

-- Think safe, be safe

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therealSteveN

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#15 posted 12-15-2018 06:48 PM


FIRST THINGS FIRST

How big of a space do you have?

What kind of woodworking do you want to do. Cabinets and bigger things or smaller boxes and toys?

Do you have 220 VAC?

Remember that you will need to buy saw blades and a better miter gauge

Bottom line is are you looking at a cabinet saw or a good smaller saw.

If you are doing bigger projects with plywood, you may want to have a circular saw and edge guide along with a table saw.

- Redoak49

Footprint won’t differ enough to make a difference. However you are looking at lifetime saws (Cab saws), as opposed to saws that most woodworkers look to replace as soon as they can. Looking at CL, you will see tons of contractors, and hardly any Cab saws. Hybrids are just a contractor (guts and motor) wearing a skirt. Don’t wanna gp for a cab saw, your best bet $$$$ wise is to rehab an older Sears and Robuck 113 saw

-- Think safe, be safe

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