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ronstar

18 posts in 98 days


82 days ago

This is my first project other than my workbench – a cherry TV stand for my mother in law. Her furniture is stained dark pine. I thought I could get the TV stand to match. I got some stain and pre-stain conditioner. But after I applied the conditioner, I don’t think I can get myself to stain it. I like it the way it is, but it could be darker.

Can i put wipe on poly over the conditioner? I have the table sitting outside catching some sun. I hope it darkens it.

-- Ron, Northern Illinois

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Mark E.

67 posts in 130 days


82 days ago

Cherry will darken over time. Giving it a suntan will speed up the process.

By the way, very nice TV stand.

-- Mark

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motthunter

946 posts in 186 days


82 days ago

looks great. are you afraid of fading?

-- making sawdust....

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Betsy

1465 posts in 283 days


82 days ago

I’m with Mark—- let it sit for a while and it will darken. I wouldn’t stain it either. Tell your mother-in-law that she needs to buy new furniture to match what you made!!!!

It’s a beautiful piece.

-- Betsy - There is no strength where there is no struggle

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teenagewoodworker

1676 posts in 156 days


82 days ago

i agree that if you leave it out there for a while it will darken. the table looks great by the way.

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CharlieM1958

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82 days ago

It looks great the way it is. Who says is has to look the same as the other furniture?

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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Slacker

77 posts in 88 days


82 days ago

Or, or… you can make her all new cherry furniture.

That is a beautiful piece, and I can not fathom why you would want to uglify it into pine.

-- There are three kinds of people... those who can count, and those who can't

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Scott Bryan

7752 posts in 209 days


82 days ago

Hi Ron,

To answer your question yes you can put poly over the conditioner. In fact this is one of the times when you should ignore what the label says. Wood conditioner is nothing more than diluted varnish ( i.e. poly). The directions call for staining within two hours but this does nothing to stop blotching. You should let the conditioner cure before applying any stain in order to help prevent blotching.

But cherry does not need staining. You cannot get cherry and pine to resemble each other. Cherry is such a gorgeous wood and it will develop its own patina with time. Putting poly on it is a good idea because it provides surface protection and you can build a poly finish. As a suggestion you might want to go with a wiping poly (3:1 poly: mineral spirits if you want to make your own) and wipe several coats on the table. It will turn out beautifully.

I am looking forward to seeing it posted.

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ronstar

18 posts in 98 days


82 days ago

Thanks for the support! I’ll wipe on poly after the conditioner dries a full day. Maybe I’ll bring it outside for some more sun. If she doesn’t like it, I’ll make a darker one out of walnut or something.

-- Ron, Northern Illinois

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DannyBoy

200 posts in 253 days


82 days ago

Very nice stand. Keep with whatever natural color its going to have. It seems to me we buy and build out of woods like cherry because they have such a great natural color. It would be a shame to ruin that.

~DB

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BertJ

47 posts in 85 days


82 days ago

To add just a note to Scott’s good advice, I recommend Min-wax Wipe-on Poly. It comes in both glossy and satin, I happen to prefer satin for most projects. It goes on VERY easily (and fast), dries quickly and allows you to build to a final finish in no time. I recommend three to five coats.

For future reference, cherry doesn’t stain very well. (Nor does pine, maple, poplar and other woods.) However, you can match almost any finish using aniline dyes. They come in many colors and can be mixed to get what you want. They can be wiped on, brushed (sponge type is best) or sprayed. Apply the dye before finishing and proceed after it is dry.

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ronstar

18 posts in 98 days


81 days ago

I have the Minwax wipe-on poly satin ready to go on the table. i also have a maple closet system started. i used the wood conditioner on a sample of the maple followed by stain. It didnt take the stain very well. I’ll have to go with dye on that one.

-- Ron, Northern Illinois

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BrianM

113 posts in 140 days


81 days ago

The holy grail for a cherry finish.

I have used the method in the link below, but have never used the Watco oil. I use a mixture of 70/30 boiled linseed oil/mineral spirits. For a number of cherry products I have taken it well over 1000 grit.

Try this on a sample piece and I don’t think you will ever use any other finish on cherry.

Link

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Thos. Angle

3246 posts in 350 days


81 days ago

Looks great! Just tell you Mother-in-law she needs to have you build all new furniture from Cherry. Ilike Cherry best with a natural finish.

-- Thos. Angle, Owyhee Design, Oregon

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ronstar

18 posts in 98 days


80 days ago

Brian – I did try a little Watco on a sample. I didnt like the look. But after reading your link, I missed the sealing steps, and I think that would make a huge difference. I’ll give a try.

Thos & others – I dont want to tell the mother in law that I’ll build all new furniture. She’ll take me up on the offer. I have a few other projects in progress that I’ll have to finish first.

-- Ron, Northern Illinois

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Hawgnutz

478 posts in 464 days


80 days ago

Really nice looking stand – just as it is. I agree with others about a poly finish to protect the surface, but keep it clear.

Thanks, Brian for the link to the oil finish tecnique!

God Bless,
Hawg

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flink

82 posts in 108 days


79 days ago

that’s a really sweet stand, Ron. I love the way the legs wrap turn the corner.

-- Made lots of sawdust and pounded some nails. Haven't finished anything, though.

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