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09-14-2011 01:07 AM

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Plane 1 – Dunlap 9-1/2” Smoothing Plane (9”)

Plane 2 – Unknown Wooden Jack Plane (14”)
The tag at the antique store said “Stanley” but the only marking I can find is the letter “B”

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#1 posted 09-14-2011 01:24 AM

That Dunlops a beaute i tell ya… My 1st was a Groz #5.

-- "there aren’t many hand tools as awe-inspiring as the #8 jointer. I mean, it just reeks of cast iron heft and hubris" - Smitty

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#2 posted 09-14-2011 01:41 AM

So a smoothing plane and a jack plane? Welcome to the slippery slope.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#3 posted 09-14-2011 03:09 AM

A couple of nice starters. That’s all it takes to get hooked. Enjoy!

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#4 posted 09-14-2011 11:30 AM

The 14” wooden jack plane was labeled a “Stanley” but there aren’t any markings that I can tell to back it up

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#5 posted 09-15-2011 03:18 AM

While they both need cleaning, tuning, sharpening, etc, the Dunlap’s shoe is true. The wooden one needs a little bit of flattening.

I plan on restoring and putting them to use. So, please let me know what kind of potential you think they may have.

I purchased both for $10ea at an antique store that I just happened to find and walked into. It was next door to a restaruant I ate at and on a whim I decided to go check it out.

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#6 posted 09-15-2011 11:46 AM

The wooden one is a transitional plane isn’t it?

-- ...Making big bits of wood smaller....

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#7 posted 09-15-2011 03:11 PM

The wood one is a transitional plane (between all wood & all metal construction.) I have a Winchester that is similar but I’m not a big fan of it – which could be due to lack of proper tuning. Mine is marked on the grain end of the toe and was stamped in and then inked. Maybe take a rubbing to see if there is anything there?

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#8 posted 09-15-2011 03:16 PM

Stanley Plane Type Study

Stanley Blood & Gore

So the transitional is a type 8, 1899-1902. I’m not into typing planes, but it’s fun to have an idea. The problem is, the cap could be type 8, the body something else. There should be a Stanley logo on the toe of the plane and a B somewhere on the metal casting too.

Some people despise transitionals. I like them and use them.

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#9 posted 09-15-2011 03:36 PM

I’m with Gary. I’ve cleaned up a few you can see in my blogs and projects. I resisted buying them for a while, but the ones I’ve restored and tuned work so well. I was very pleasantly surprised on the first one.

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#10 posted 09-15-2011 09:50 PM

Gary – thanks for the input. I printed off the one site and you are correct it is a Type-8. I just finished giving its first clean-up (mineral sprit wipe down – pictures to follow). On the toe of the shoe it reads (thanks for the idea of a doing a rubbing – also the mineral spirits really brought it out as well) STANLEY
RULE & BEVEL CO. NO 26

On the iron (again thanks to mineral spirits) it reads STANLY
PAT AP’L 19,92

So this transitional plane was manufacture between 1899 adn 1902.

I will post pictures of it all taken apart soon.

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#12 posted 09-15-2011 10:50 PM

The brass depth adjustment nut will not turn. Any suggestions on what to do?

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#13 posted 09-16-2011 12:01 AM

I just had a stubborn adjustment knob. Put it in something to hold it like this.

Fill it full of penetrating oil. Let it sit for a day.
Take a rag and wrap it and grip it with a pair of pliers (with the rag protecting the knob). Try turning it forward and back very gently. Don’t let the pliers slip. If it don’t break, fill it again and let it sit. Rinse and repeat. After you’ve run out of patience, if it hasn’t broke, add a little heat.

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#14 posted 09-16-2011 12:07 AM

Oil, or soak it in mineral spirits. Possibly years of oil deposits and dust have solidified and need dissolving.

I’m still amazed there is no ongoing argument over why transitionals are garbage and why this type is better than that type. I happen to like the low knob planes. Go figure.

-- Gary Roberts, http://toolemera.com

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#15 posted 09-16-2011 01:07 AM

The Stanley No 27 transitional will make an excellent fore plane while the dunlap will make a good finishing plane. Soak the parts in a solution of citric acid and water overnight then rinse off. Sharpen the blades and put them to use. They will make excellent planes.

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