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dataz722

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12-06-2018 10:07 PM

I think I am about to purchase my first lathe and everything that goes with it. I just want some opinions if I might be overlooking something or if I should go with something different for anything as I would like to order everything at once. I plan to start out doing spindle stuff (pens, seam rippers, gift things, pepper mills etc) but would eventually like to try bowls. I have not decided if I want to go with carbide or hss tools and haven’t really looked into chucks too much yet. Also, I already have a slow speed grinder and wolverine jig.

Rikon Model 70-1218VS Lathe
Mandrel saver kit from PSI
Whiteside barrel trimmer set
Micromesh
sandpaper
nonstick bushings
varigrind

I really feel like I am missing something there….

Thanks


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a1Jim

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#1 posted 12-06-2018 10:16 PM

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Knockonit

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#2 posted 12-06-2018 11:00 PM

LOL, purchase my first lathe and everything that goes with it, hehehehe, no crazier statement made, when one turns, there seems to be no end to what one will want to make it easier, faster, simpler, not knocking you, just saying for me it seems there is always that “one’ thing maybe i need, of course it could just be Me.

best of luck, nothing like throwing dust from a lathe

Rj in az

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dataz722

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#3 posted 12-06-2018 11:18 PM


https://www.amazon.com/PSI-Woodworking-LCHSS8-Chisel-8-Piece/dp/B000KI8CTS/ref=zg_bs_552516_2?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=BVMDH9XYMR0Y6JB7ZKSN

- a1Jim

Would those be good to start with if I do intend to still move onto bowls? I’ve seen people say that the shorter ones are quickly replaced with longer ones. Is there any advantage to having short ones as well?

And yes, I am aware of all the innuendos there! Maybe they were intentional, maybe not…


LOL, purchase my first lathe and everything that goes with it, hehehehe, no crazier statement made, when one turns, there seems to be no end to what one will want to make it easier, faster, simpler, not knocking you, just saying for me it seems there is always that “one thing maybe i need, of course it could just be Me.

best of luck, nothing like throwing dust from a lathe

Rj in az

- Knockonit

Yeah, guess I should have worded that differently. Between woodworking and photography I know the feeling of always NEEDING something else. Its a curse I tell ya!

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Andre

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#4 posted 12-06-2018 11:31 PM

Wood, lots of Wood and oh ya, pen kits, lots pen kits, and of course the matching bushings for the different styles of pens and and and.

-- Lifting one end of the plank.

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TheDane

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#5 posted 12-06-2018 11:45 PM

Would those be good to start with if I do intend to still move onto bowls?

No … this set is suitable for spindle work. You need a bowl gouge to turn bowls.

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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dataz722

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#6 posted 12-06-2018 11:47 PM



Wood, lots of Wood and oh ya, pen kits, lots pen kits, and of course the matching bushings for the different styles of pens and and and.

- Andre

Yeah, I left those off the list. I will probably get a few different starter kits for different styles from PSI that come with the bits and bushings.

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Wildwood

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#7 posted 12-07-2018 11:25 AM

Suggest hanging out here and reading free thread some threads require you sign up before seeing. http://www.penturners.org/forum/

If live close enough might make a visit to retail store versus order online or from catalog. PSI also offers a free DVD on pen turning. Depending upon your turning skills only need maybe three tools: roughing gouge, skew, and parting tool. YOU CAN BUY INDIVIDUALLY VERSUS TOOL SET! Same goes for bowl other spindle gouges too. PSI’s BB tools inexpensive and okay for starting out.

https://www.pennstateind.com/store/corporate_information.html

Universal barrel trimming set:
https://www.pennstateind.com/store/PKTRIMKIT.html

I never bought a pen press didn’t need one. Used C and furniture clamps or just bench vise for assembly.

Sounds like already know something about kit bushings, never used non-stick bushings, just check to make sure compatible with kit want to turn. A good drill index set and drill size chart can keep you from buying new drill bits for every pen kit.

https://www.imperialsupplies.com/pdf/I_DrillSizeDecimalEquivalent&TapDrillChart.pdf

https://www.woodcraft.com/products/woodriver-25-piece-metric-brad-point-drill-bit-index-set

Digital calipers for measuring kit components & drill bits.

https://www.harborfreight.com/catalogsearch/result/index/?dir=asc&order=EAScore%2Cf%2CEAFeatured+Weight%2Cf%2CSale+Rank%2Cf&q=digital+caliper

When want to move up to better tools might look at:

www.packardwoodworks.com

www.woodturnserscatalog.com

Lot of good vendors selling tools but these two good starting point because offer discount if buy more than one turning tools at a time. As you get more experience will find other vendors that offer sales on tool too.

-- Bill

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OSU55

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#8 posted 12-07-2018 04:42 PM

o 3 spindle gouges 1/4, 3/8, 1/2
o 1/2 & 1” rectangle skews
o 2-3 scrapers you can grind to desired forms
o Barracuda2 chuck and jaw sets

Many more items later

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OSU55

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#9 posted 12-07-2018 06:57 PM

Super center drive centers from psi

Bowl turning 3/8 & 5/8 bowl gouges (shaft dia not flute width).

Research negative rake scrapers – grind your own from any scraper

Power sanding – 3/8” 90 deg vs drill with pads and discs I like http://vinceswoodnwonders.com – more for bowls vs spindle turning

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Lazyman

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#10 posted 12-07-2018 07:18 PM


Would those be good to start with if I do intend to still move onto bowls?

No … this set is suitable for spindle work. You need a bowl gouge to turn bowls.

- TheDane

There is a 1/2” bowl gouge included in that set. This is a good quaility starter set. It has more scrapers than needed but those are handy for reshaping for other uses. I would add a thinner parting tool and a couple of smaller spindle gouges. Carbide tools can be a quick jump start for beginners and are good for roughing of bowls with less risk of scary catches. Other good starter sets are branded as Hercules and Benjamin’s Best.

-- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way.

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RobHannon

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#11 posted 12-07-2018 07:27 PM

Look into getting a chuck. I have a Hurricane HTC100 and am happy with it. Nova and Barracuda are similar price range. Opens a world of mounting options.

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HokieKen

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#12 posted 12-07-2018 07:28 PM

LJ Dave Kelley sells carbide tools. I own a set and recommend them to new and advanced turners alike. I’m not of the mindset that you can do everything with carbide but they sure are nice to have and easy to use!

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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dataz722

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#13 posted 12-07-2018 07:28 PM

I do want to get a chuck, just don’t know if I am going to have the budget for one right off the bat. I also haven’t really researched them much at all. Is there anything in particular to look for or avoid?

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Phil32

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#14 posted 12-07-2018 07:35 PM

I would argue that the more you buy to do one form of woodturning, the more you will feel compelled to do only that. Keep your options open. Get only what you need for the initial projects, then let your own ambitions define what comes next.

-- Phil Allin - Ventura, CA

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Wildwood

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#15 posted 12-07-2018 08:58 PM

Agree with Phil, if stay with your spindle turning mentioned above will learn about stance, grip, tool control, re-sharpening tools and see results quickly.

Will also give you time look over lathe chucks. Depending upon access to wood to turn may decide need a bigger lathe for bowl turning. Yes, that Rikon will let you turn decent bowls but who knows!

-- Bill

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