Awhile back I decided to use of some of my shorts, cutoffs, and scrap. I figured I’d make a standing block (end grain) cutting board for the kitchen. The original size was to be 16”X24” but due to some miscalculations, (I had to use some of my short pieces for a bathroom cabinet), I ended up with a couple of 8”X8”X1” cheese cutting boards. I cut all the wood into 1/2 – 3/4” strips about 10” long, glued up and then cut into the blocks 1” long, plus added some random pieces that were 1”X1”. I then glued all the little pieces together into cutting board sized blocks and flattened on my stationary sanding disc. The wood I used was Walnut, Pecan and Osage Orange, and I used straight mineral oil for the finish. I radiused the edges on both top, bottom and sides and sanded from 120 grit up through 800 grit. Even without finish, the wood had a beautiful luster and worked well together.
I didn’t really want them in the house, since we have way too many small pieces of junk laying around so I gave one to my bosses wife and one to a neighbor lady.
Interestingly, the neighbor lady came up and asked what I would charge to make a few more of them, only larger, about 12”X16”. I honestly have no idea what I would have to charge because this was a small job just to use up some scrap that would have ended up in the burning pile and I didn’t work on them full time, although I had about 7 hours total into making those two.
The wood was all grown here and harvested from trees and downed branches on our property so I’d have to buy the pecan and the walnut from a dealer. I haven’t got enough of it on hand. The Osage Orange I have plenty of and it’s well seasoned, but really hard on equipment.
The size would be 2 1/2 times bigger. Allowing for efficiency gain with a production of several alike pieces maybe 7 hours x $25 per hour = $175 for labor. Then about 2 board feet of $10 wood would be $20. So cost is about $195 labor and material, then divide by .75 for a 25% markup = $234 each.
-- Michael :-{| Diapers and politicians both need to be changed often; and for the same reason.
If you can’t make them fast enough to charge something reasonable and still profit, like, say $85 a piece, then I wouldn’t bother with it.
There was a guy at the local fair selling really nice wooden kitchen ware, cutting boards, spoons, spatulas, etc, and nothing approached the $200 mark. In fact, his 10” X 14” cutting boards were $65, and man were they nice! His were both flat grain and end grain (though not both in the same board) and made from a lot of different local woods. (I’m in southern Maine)
Honestly, if you’re not dealing with little scraps and have full size lumber to cut up, you can count on things moving along a LOT quicker. And as well, I know this from segmented turnings, once you get set-up to cut the segments, things REALLY start to cook right along.
One other tip, General Finishes’ Seal-A-Cell followed by Arm-R-Seal makes for an excellent food surface finish. I made my dad some sushi trays from tiger maple, and I have made my dad and myself a pair of end-grain cutting boards and used that for a finish on these pieces and it has held up extremely well. It also prevents any liquids from food soaking into the wood, and it does a lot better job than mineral oil or even salad bowl finish.
I understand where crank49 is coming from, it’s a logical way to price a piece. But in all honesty, do you think the lady will pay $234 each for a 12” X 16” cutting board? I would not, even if I could not cut a 2X4 in half. Find out how many she wants, what the expectations of woods are, (can you use maybe other woods that you might have in stock), and price it as a batch, using glue-ups as large as your saws can handle to speed things along. Try to get them down below $100. If you cannot, I think you will be lucky to get this deal. Use the fastest sealer you can find that is food safe. This is time, time, time, not so much material.
Assuming the neighbor lady is a friend, I would only charge her the cost of materials and tell her that as long as she could wait and let me do them in my free time, that I would treat it as a favor and not a job. If she can’t wait and wants to pay to commission you for your work, then she needs to be prepared to pay for materials plus whatever your time is worth. Maybe since she’s a friend, you cut her a break on the 25% markup.
Of course, I’m a hobbyist and not a professional so my time is worth a lot less than a pro. If it’s taking away from real profit generating jobs, then throw my opinion right in the trash!
-- If it ain't broke, take it apart and find out why
If she lets you fudge on species to what you can easilly(cheaply) get and not in a hurry, then $85-$125. If she wants the exact same thing, only larger, then $125-$150.
Even for FRIENDs, you need to add just a little bit for labor.
-- Backer boards, stop blocks, build oversized, and never buy a hand plane--
Thanks for the ideas everyone! I think what we have figured out is that her husband is going to bring me a couple of hickory logs and a couple of English walnut logs. They will also supply any other wood I need for the boards. The logs are mine to use as I see fit, LOL. We also set a price of $85 per board and they don’t need to be done until two days before Christmas.
Since I’m just a hobbyist and have never done custom wood working before, this will be a good opportunity to see how I do. Especially considering that I plan on doing this to enhance our income in our ‘Golden’ years, or in today’s economy, “Aluminum” years. I need to learn this stuff and there’s no time like the present!
Woodworking Skill Share Your woodworking skills are displayed for several lifetimes in each project. Have you had to compromise your project...
8781
Woodturning On the lathe, by the lathe: do you have questions? frustrations? tips? This forum is for all the woodturners out there.
219
Woodcarving Relief, 3D, chip-carving, whittling; carving knives, chisels, pocket-knives, power tools. If you are a carver or want...
28
Scrollsawing Intarsia, fretwork, intricate design cutting and more! This forum is for scrollsawers: share your tips, ask questions...
61
Joinery Have a question? a tip/strategy to share? a challenge, perhaps? Share your "joinery" discussion here.
77
Finishing The finish, whether paint, wax, stain, or something else, can make or break a project. What are your tips and questio...
1521
Designing Woodworking Projects Looking for information on designing your projects? Having difficulties reading project plans? Looking for help with ...
3541
Power Tools, Hardware and Accessories Are you unsure of which tools, or hardware, you need, or which brands to buy? Investing in tools and hardware can be ...
15748
Hand Tools Wood, your hand tools, you and a little know-how. Share your questions, tips and strategies for the use and maintenan...
2027
Jigs & Fixtures Using a jig is like having a couple extra hands helping out. Show us your jigs, share your tips, strategies and, of c...
493
Wood & Lumber Different wood requires different woodworking strategies - from cutting to finishing. Share your tips and challenges ...
2832
Safety in the Woodworking Shop Before you pick up those woodworking tools, take the time to ensure your safety in the shop! Eyes, ears, fingers, and...
808
Focus on the Workspace Are you looking for or do you have tips to share regarding the workshop? Storage, equipment placement, efficiency, an...
899
Sweating for Bucks Through Woodworking If you are selling your work, then you have entered a woodworking dimension with added complexity and stress. If you...
766
Woodworking Trade & Swap All of us are holding onto treasure in our shops, that we either don't need, don't want, or could part with if presen...
2736
LumberJocks.com Site Feedback Connect with the Website Gurus and tell us what you are thinking, suggestions, problems, functionality issues, and so...
1547
Coffee Lounge Need a break from all the standing and wood dust? Chat with your Forum Friends about their projects, their life, thei...
6148
DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user.