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WoodNuts

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1036 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: outdoor finish outdoor furniture durablility color question

I have been doing some research and have a high regard for your input on this site.

The question is in determining what to apply…
What I seek is some guidance. G. mahogany used outdoors. I have some nice stock and do not want to obscure the grain, rather enhance it. In “It’s All About Color” Charles indicated dyes are not too good for outdoor use; I have been finding other info confirming this as it tends to fade. Although the newer NGR products are said to provide better color-fastness.

Also I would like to treat the project with a durable final coat of something, though I don’t want a plastic-coated condom effect.

Reviewing Charles’ Mahogany DVD, I like the results of the Cinnamon Red, but it is a dye. The Early american or Golden color was nice, but I think too Lt brown. What could I use over this to achieve the durability and maintain grain/color result?

What do you all think?
Thanks

-- ...there's a fix fer dat...


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CharlieM1958

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#1 posted 1036 days ago

When you say “outdoor”, is it going to get actually exposure to sun and rain?

I think your options are fairly limited if you want outdoor protection. I would only use a dye if it claims to be colorfast under UV exposure. For a top coat, spar varnish. Period.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#2 posted 1036 days ago

look at the GF line of exterior 450 stains, they do not need topcoating, but if you want more look at the 450 exterior coating,, i personally can a test to it durability,,,, its tough and the color retention and clarity are excellent

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#3 posted 1036 days ago

Believe it, Charlie, and rain, and snow, and…
Well hopefully they bring it in for the real bad stuff.
So, I’ve got some Epifanes laying around, but I wanted to stay away from the film stuff and refinish more often.

Charles, That sounds like something I’m looking for. I’ll check it out.

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WoodNuts

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#4 posted 1032 days ago

I bought some Olde Cherry stain and GF Satin Exterior 450 coating, which is clear. I used some test sticks and found 2 coats of stain was too dark and even with 1 coat blended too much and obscured the grain more than I wanted. Then I used 2 coats clear on another stick and looks awesome! It does not leave a layered or plastic look at all, very nice. I’m sold on this stuff for looks and will take Charles’ word for durability.

Thanks.

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