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Forum topic by WoodNuts posted 09-08-2011 12:28 PM 1173 views 0 times favorited 4 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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09-08-2011 12:28 PM

Topic tags/keywords: outdoor finish outdoor furniture durablility color question

I have been doing some research and have a high regard for your input on this site.

The question is in determining what to apply…
What I seek is some guidance. G. mahogany used outdoors. I have some nice stock and do not want to obscure the grain, rather enhance it. In “It’s All About Color” Charles indicated dyes are not too good for outdoor use; I have been finding other info confirming this as it tends to fade. Although the newer NGR products are said to provide better color-fastness.

Also I would like to treat the project with a durable final coat of something, though I don’t want a plastic-coated condom effect.

Reviewing Charles’ Mahogany DVD, I like the results of the Cinnamon Red, but it is a dye. The Early american or Golden color was nice, but I think too Lt brown. What could I use over this to achieve the durability and maintain grain/color result?

What do you all think?

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#1 posted 09-08-2011 03:38 PM

When you say “outdoor”, is it going to get actually exposure to sun and rain?

I think your options are fairly limited if you want outdoor protection. I would only use a dye if it claims to be colorfast under UV exposure. For a top coat, spar varnish. Period.

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#2 posted 09-08-2011 07:16 PM

look at the GF line of exterior 450 stains, they do not need topcoating, but if you want more look at the 450 exterior coating,, i personally can a test to it durability,,,, its tough and the color retention and clarity are excellent

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#3 posted 09-08-2011 10:18 PM

Believe it, Charlie, and rain, and snow, and…
Well hopefully they bring it in for the real bad stuff.
So, I’ve got some Epifanes laying around, but I wanted to stay away from the film stuff and refinish more often.

Charles, That sounds like something I’m looking for. I’ll check it out.

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#4 posted 09-12-2011 10:07 AM

I bought some Olde Cherry stain and GF Satin Exterior 450 coating, which is clear. I used some test sticks and found 2 coats of stain was too dark and even with 1 coat blended too much and obscured the grain more than I wanted. Then I used 2 coats clear on another stick and looks awesome! It does not leave a layered or plastic look at all, very nice. I’m sold on this stuff for looks and will take Charles’ word for durability.


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