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Forum topic by maljr1980 posted 09-05-2011 12:57 AM 857 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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maljr1980

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09-05-2011 12:57 AM

hi, i’m new to this forum, but not to woodworking. i am 30 years old and work in an AWI shop that specializes in super high end retail fixtures, i’ve also worked in amish style cabinet and furniture shops and done my fair share of interior trim in premium grade homes. i just purchased my first set of nice chisels, its the Pfeil 6 piece cabinetmakers bench chisel set. ive always had value brand chissels, such as footprint or marples, and always sharpened them free hand on a belt sander or grinder, but i wanted to do these right. ive flattened and polished the backs on a 800/4000 grit combination waterstone. the chisels were fairly flat to begin with, i maybe spent 5-10 minutes at most on the backs of each chisel to flatten them, and i flattened a good 2-3 inches down from the edge which many will say is overkill. i picked up an eclipse style honing jig from woodcraft for $15 or so and went on to re hone the microbevel on these chisels. the way the side bevel tapers on the chisels, and the way the guide locks the chisels into place makes the chisel sit out of square in the jig. the larger chisels did not have much of an issue, but the narrower chisels were very crooked and made for an ugly microbevel. i was able to correct this by sort of rocking the guide to one side, so now i ended up with a microbevel on some of my chisels that is probably 3/16” instead of the 1/32-1/16 as came from the factory, which im not pleased with. i may end up grinding and re sharpening and honing the bevel and microbevel. does anyone have any experience working and fixing this jig? i thought about using bondo or something to fill in some of the recess on the side of the honing guide so the thinner portion of the chisel doesnt bury itself into the jig to help keep it square


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#1 posted 09-05-2011 04:19 AM

yes its a piece of junk, i wouldnt have bought it had i known my chisels would fit in it crooked. im a little upset at woodcraft for carrying such a shitty tool. i bought a $200 set of chisels and they sold me a honing guide that ruined them, well not really ruined them but i will end up grinding 1/8” off the 6mm, 10mm, and 12mm chisel to fix the scrwed up bevel and have to buy the mk2 or make a shop made jig wiith a dado and various size spacers to hold the individual chisels in place like this jig should have

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#2 posted 09-05-2011 04:33 AM

i have a couple of planes at work i plan on sharpening with it. if the beveled edges on my chisels didnt taper as much then it wouldnt be an issue. that jig would work better if on the flat side there were no notch, andit just had a slight overhang to lock the chisel in place, the chisel is usable, it just looks likeits been sharpened on a grinder, not straight at all. i should have just flattened the backs and not honed the microbevel. the 26mm is almost perfect as its thicker and doesnt get wedged into the groove like the 6mm did. still trying to find a quick remedy to make this jig work

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#3 posted 09-05-2011 05:05 AM

I haven’t had very good luck with the eclipse guide either. While not extreme, it does clamp the blade just a little out of square. It is mostly noticeable on plane irons. I have to compensate way too much to get the blade straight on the tool. I finally found a good vintage jig that was manufactured by Millers Falls and it does a great job. I particularly like the fact that I can adjust for a micro bevel without removing the blade. It is similar to the Lee Valley jig in design and the way that it clamps the tool.

Doc

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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