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09-04-2011 09:03 PM

Topic tags/keywords: feedback spam scam

We have a nice feature to flag spam posts. Given the number of greeters we have on the site, would it be possible to add a capability for users to flag/report the accounts spammers are using. Many times they can be identified by the advertising posts and links they put in their account profile.

In some cases it can be more serious than them trying to drive traffic to their sites. Last week we had an account sending PM’s to people with a Nigerian Scam in the message.

Thanks Martin.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov


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#1 posted 09-07-2011 03:03 AM

Spammer Account
http://lumberjocks.com/spodfpowef#comment-1054041

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#2 posted 09-07-2011 08:35 PM

I just sent Martin a message last week about this. I went to greet now members and about half of the people on the first page were SPAM. Hopefully they’re working on a SPAM button for accounts and not just posts.

-- Matt - http://breakingboardom.wordpress.com/

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#3 posted 10-24-2011 04:07 PM

I have noticed that about 40% of the new profiles are spammers. I have also talked to Ms Debbie about this. I know they are aware of it. My suggestion would be to have some of us that greet new members submit a list to Debbie or Martin with product names that could be blocked at sign up. If you look at all of the sign ups each day, there are only about 8 or 10 products that regularly show up. It wouldnt be hard to create a block list for these product names. The names have nothing to do with woodworking so there wouldnt be any problems with our members. Will have to see what Martin does. I am on other websites, and LJ is the only one that I see this problem with so not sure what the others use.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#4 posted 11-08-2011 10:20 AM

I TOTALLY AGREE with ALL of the above Posters. My Activity Log still shows “Spammers” from over 100 Days go that I told to “BUZZ OFF!” They’re still here. As Wayne said…It’s getting worse with every day that passes.

The easiest way to “Point Them Out To Management” would be to be able to “FLAG” their Account on their Home Page. THAT’S where you find out if their SPAM or not.

This site does not have a “Secure Sign Up” process. ie. To do that ….YOU sign up, the owners then send you a Password via YOUR Personal E-Mail Address that you gave them when you “Applied” for Membership. You MUST use that Password to activate your Membership and access the Site! ONLY THEN do you become a Member. As I have had to do on other sites comparable to this one, only different “Subject Matter”.

Of course there’s also the Question of “Numbers”. The higher, the better as far as Advertisers and Revenue to the Site are concerned. 30% to 40% are Spammers??? Yes!

As a Member on here I DON’T think it’s our responsibility to Notify Management every time we spot a Spammer via a PM which is the ONLY way we can do that at present. The “SYSTEM” should take care of that Automatically.

Flagging their Profile? MY PLEASURE!!!

Rick

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#5 posted 11-16-2011 10:52 AM

Correction Please on my above Post #4.

In Particular: “This site does not have a “Secure Sign Up” process. ie. To do that ….YOU sign up, the owners then send you a Password via YOUR Personal E-Mail Address that you gave them when you “Applied” for Membership. You MUST use that Password to activate your Membership and access the Site! ONLY THEN do you become a Member. As I have had to do on other sites comparable to this one, only different “Subject Matter”.”

Even though you choose your own Password here. This Site WILL send you an e-mail with an “Access Code” that you MUST come back here to enter BEFORE you can Join LJ’s.

My apologies for the Misleading Information in MY above Post.

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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#6 posted 11-05-2012 09:04 PM

PLEASE FLAG ON PROFILE PAGE TO FIGHT AGAINST SPAMMERS!

-- Alejandro Moreno alias xylosapiens, CANARY ISLANDS

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#7 posted 11-06-2012 03:35 AM

As far as I know, there is no flag option on a spammer that has just signed up and hasnt posted anything outside of their profile.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#8 posted 11-10-2012 10:58 AM

You are correct Wayne!!

Seems like it would be an easy thing to do …i.e. Put a “Flag” button on “Profiles”. Maybe there’s a “Technical” Reason they don’t want to do that????

There’s A GUY.... on here that use to call himself the “Troll Hunter” who now changes his Avatar about every second day.

HE uses/shows THIS SITES URL as HIS Web Address on his Profile. What’s up with that!! It should be REMOVED …. YESTERDAY!!

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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#9 posted 11-10-2012 07:57 PM

+1 Rick on Troll Hunter as the antics of this character our getting out of hand.

I like the secure sign in idea ad I use it on a number of sites that don’t seem to have any spammers.

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#10 posted 11-12-2012 10:20 AM

I Totally aree with your ”Secure Sign In” Oldnovice. BUT! It ain’t never gonna happen, just like the GUY I mentioned above.

3 weeks ago HIS Web Address was just lumberjocks.com.

He started a Post to try and raise the number of “Donations From Members” (i.e. Kiss A).

Donations from Members was discontinued when the site was sold.

BUT!! His “NOW Home Page” shows as below. If you click on it, it will only take you to the General Members Page.

I guess HE hasn’t figured that out yet…... DUH!!

Why the ”Administrators” .......ZZZZZZZZ’s allow this Crap to GO ON is beyond my understanding!!

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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#11 posted 11-12-2012 10:32 AM

WOW!! Is he ever fast!!! PHHFFTTTT!!!

Changed it again, but just His Avatar….... AGAIN! Still the same HIS Web Address???????

Now it’s…..........

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It I’sn’t SPAM …....................Maybe it’s worse????

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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#12 posted 01-11-2013 12:32 AM

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#13 posted 01-11-2013 03:32 AM

I just have a hard time understanding people that do this kind of crap.

They need to be mentally deficient and/or deviant in some form or other. What “thrill” is there in ruining a web site or make it difficult for others to enjoy.

I can understand spammers as they probably are getting paid to spam as much as possible but I do believe a secure sign up process will help. I belong to CNC site and there is no spam there as they have a secure sign up procedure! You just cannot sign up and start making comments, rude or otherwise, as you must wait for approval which is typically in 24 hours!

-- "I never met a board I didn't like!"

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#14 posted 01-11-2013 03:57 AM

From my point of view [EDITED by moderators] is a internet stalker.

His personal attacks have escalated way beyond LJ’s. Facebook, Google maps and now crazy snail mail.

He is blocked from here and Garden Tenders, reported and blocked from my Facebook

Types of stalkers

Psychologists often group individuals who stalk into two categories: psychotic and nonpsychotic.[14] Stalkers may have pre-existing psychotic disorders such as delusional disorder, schizoaffective disorder, or schizophrenia. Most stalkers are nonpsychotic and may exhibit disorders or neuroses such as major depression, adjustment disorder, or substance dependence, as well as a variety of Axis II personality disorders (such as antisocial, borderline, dependent, narcissistic, or paranoid). Some of the symptoms of “obsessing” over a person is part of obsessive compulsive personality disorder. The nonpsychotic stalkers’ pursuit of victims can be influenced by various psychological factors, including anger, hostility, projection of blame, obsession, dependency, minimization, denial, and jealousy. Conversely, as is more commonly the case, the stalker has no antipathic feelings towards the victim, but simply a longing that cannot be fulfilled due to deficiencies either in their personality or their society’s norms.[15]

In “A Study of Stalkers” Mullen et al.. (2000)[16] identified five types of stalkers:

Rejected stalkers pursue their victims in order to reverse, correct, or avenge a rejection (e.g. divorce, separation, termination).
Resentful stalkers pursue a vendetta because of a sense of grievance against the victims – motivated mainly by the desire to frighten and distress the victim.
Intimacy seekers seek to establish an intimate, loving relationship with their victim. To many of them the victim is a long-sought-after soul mate, and they were ‘meant’ to be together.
Incompetent suitors, despite poor social or courting skills, have a fixation, or in some cases, a sense of entitlement to an intimate relationship with those who have attracted their amorous interest. Their victims are most often already in a dating relationship with someone else.
Predatory stalkers spy on the victim in order to prepare and plan an attack – often sexual – on the victim.

The 2002 National Victim Association Academy defines an additional form of stalking: The vengeance/terrorist stalker. Both the vengeance stalker and terrorist stalker (the latter sometimes called the political stalker) do not, in contrast with some of the aforementioned types of stalkers, seek a personal relationship with their victims but rather force them to emit a certain response favourable to the stalker. While the vengeance stalker’s motive is “to get even” with the other person whom he/she perceives has done some wrong to them (e.g., an employee who believes is fired without justification from their job by their superior), the political stalker intends to accomplish a political agenda, also using threats and intimidation to force his/her target to refrain and/or become involved in some particular activity, regardless of the victim’s consent.[17]

Many stalkers[quantify] fit categories with paranoia disorders. Intimacy-seeking stalkers often have delusional disorders involving erotomanic delusions. With rejected stalkers, the continual clinging to a relationship of an inadequate or dependent person couples with the entitlement of the narcissistic personality, and the persistent jealousy of the paranoid personality. In contrast, resentful stalkers demonstrate an almost “pure culture of persecution,” with delusional disorders of the paranoid type, paranoid personalities, and paranoid schizophrenia.[16]

One of the uncertainties in understanding the origins of stalking is that the concept is now widely understood in terms of specific behaviors18 which are found to be offensive and/or illegal. As discussed above, these specific (apparently stalking) behaviors may have multiple motivations.

In addition, the personality characteristics that are often discussed as antecedent to stalking may also produce behavior that is not stalking as conventionally defined. Some research suggests there is a spectrum of what might be called “obsessed following behavior.” People who complain obsessively and for years, about a perceived wrong or wrong-doer, when no one else can perceive the injury—and people who cannot or will not “let go” of a person or a place or an idea—comprise a wider group of persons that may be problematic in ways that seem similar to stalking. Some of these people get extruded from their organizations—they may get hospitalized or fired or let go if their behavior is defined in terms of illegal stalking, but many others do good or even excellent work in their organizations and appear to have just one focus of tenacious obsession.[19]
Cyberstalking
Main article: Cyberstalking

Cyberstalking is the use of computers or other electronic technology to facilitate stalking. A booming “spy shop” industry has sprouted up to supply Hi-tech equipment such as computer hacking or monitoring software, hidden cameras, microphones, and GPS tracking units.[20] In Davis (2001), Lucks identified a separate category of stalkers who instead of a terrestrial means, prefer to perpetrate crimes against their targeted victims through electronic and online means.[21][page needed]

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#15 posted 01-11-2013 08:16 AM

Dan:

What the Devil are you talking about and making up now? More Importantly …. WHY

I Have NEVER been Blocked from Here and I’m not even Interested in Garden Tenders!

I stayed off here because I got FED UP Having To Deal with people like YOU. One Examples is as above in your Post #12. Also YOUR Identity Theft was a REAL “No More For Me” Situation?

If I’m A Stalker, which I am NOT, what does that make you with all these, shall I say ”UN-TRUTHS”

His personal attacks have escalated way beyond LJ’s. Facebook, Google maps and now crazy snail mail.

He is blocked from here and Garden Tenders, reported and blocked from my Facebook.”

I have NEVER been anywhere near YOUR “Facebook”, “Google Maps?”, and “Crazy Snail Mail?”

The ONLY Place I have been is your Photobucket Account which is WIDE OPEN as a PUBLIC ACCOUNT. It has an “Original Site Location” connection back to a LOT of your Pictures, OLD & New. I’ll be Decent Enough to Leave That Alone.

“oldnovice” as one of my Buddies Saw and Knows what’s going on, so do the rest of my Buddies and Others.

My Posts above Have Mentioned this before. #8, #10 and #11. My Last Post was 59 Days ago and it was the Last Post on here! YOU had to Re-Open it 7 HOURS AGO with YOUR OWN Troll Hunter Thing.

Why would YOU have the NEED to do that?? It make NO SENSE to me whatsoever!

Other than YOU thought I Really was Blocked and Couldn’t come back on here to Defend Myself against these ABSURD Allegations YOU’VE Now Made

I got the Notice in my Personal e-mail at Home that this Message was here. That wouldn’t happen if I had of been Booted Off Of Here.

I’m trying Very Hard to remain CIVIL while I’m doing this, but YOU just astound me with this FICTIONAL JUNK!

Something is VERY WRONG HERE.

That’s it. I’m lost for words. What YOU are doing Defies ANY LOGICAL Reasoning.

-- COMMON SENSE Is Like Deodorant. The People Who need It Most, Never Use It.

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