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Forum topic by jta posted 11-18-2018 02:33 PM 312 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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jta

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11-18-2018 02:33 PM

Topic tags/keywords: bandsaw

Looking for some purchasing advice. Currently looking at a bandsaw, and while I was initially drawn by the 14” models, have decided that a 17” with 12” resaw seems to be closer to where I’d like to end up. Have seen a number of reviews of the X2 which seem favorable, while its been relatively difficult to find reviews of the ANV. Main differences are Euro-rollers on the ANV vs ball bearing assembly on the X2, a slightly longer table on the X2 , cast iron trunion (vs steel), a difference sort of fence and cast iron wheels on the X2 vs the aluminum on the ANV.

First question – Is there any real reason I should be thinking 14” instead of 17” for a bandsaw – I’m planning to do plenty of resawing, tapering, tenoning and eventually some finer curve work for furniture.

Second – Does anyone have an experience with either of these Grizzly bandsaws (or alternate models) who would be able to offer some insight on their thought process/whether it matters significantly or if they have found significant advantages for one or the other?


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Tennessee

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#1 posted 11-18-2018 02:53 PM

I’ve owned the Grizzly G0513X2BF for about six years now. I’ve finally replaced the tires on the wheels and one lower bearing underneath which got clogged with sap and dust. Eight bucks at my local motor rewind house. Otherwise, it has been nothing short of a horse, stays straight, cuts well, and I simply cannot talk about that brake enough.

When I use my 14” Powermatic with riser, (105” blade), I like it for small stuff and keep a small blade on it, either 3/16ths, or even an 1/8th Inch. And when I turn it off, it takes about 20-25 seconds to stop, which when making a bandsaw jewelry box that requires a lot of cuts, takes forever. I have come to hate that time. Great balance when it spins forever, but a PITA when you want to simply make the next cut.

The Grizzly, while being a bigger, much more powerful saw, when I do a resaw on it, and I get through the cut, I hit the button or the foot pedal, and the blade is stopped in about 1.25 seconds. I’ve never had to adjust it, and it all works well. The brake is located inside the endbell of the motor. Basically an electric static clutch that engages and stops the motor, which uses the belts to stop the wheels. It works great and there is no jerking.

I know the lesser versions of this saw, a couple of the guys down at my Woodcraft have them, and they like them, save they all say the same things: Wish I had bought the cast iron wheel, and wish I had spent the extra coin for the brake. I don’t know anyone who owns the ANV, but it is simply a slightly cheaper version of the regular lineup.

I would definitely go for the ball bearings over the Euro rollers. And you cannot beat cast iron wheels for resawing, it just adds to the flywheel effect and helps the motor keep speed with all that weight rolling along.
The brake is something once you use it, you wonder why all your life you didn’t have one.

And yes, I’ve had small blades on this big horse of a saw, down to 3/16th. You have to be a bit careful of tensioning, it can break the blade, but it does do the job well and allows you to curve without any problems. I finally got enough coin to afford two bandsaws, and the Powermatic with riser was the obvious choice for me for small stuff. Now I keep it for small, Grizzly for big. I also cut my logs into shape for my lathe work on my Grizzly.

If you can afford it, definitely get the complete package. For me, my G0513X2BF is a lifetime saw.

-- Tsunami Guitars and Custom Woodworking, Cleveland, TN

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bigJohninvegas

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#2 posted 11-18-2018 03:24 PM

I have the G0513X2. And I love it. I to looked at the 14 ” saws, both grizzly and Jet. It seems that the 14” saws have an inch or two more resaw capacity. So if resaw is where it is at for you you may want to look closer at that size. Since bying my saw I have seen a few buy the rikon 14” saw for its resaw ability and seem to like it.
For me I do some resaw work, and the 12 inch resaw capacity of the 513 is enough for me. I like the overall performance of the 17” saw.
I looked at the G0513anv too. It made more sense to me spend the little extra for the added features of the X2.
Do a side by side comparison of the two saws.
The anniversary version has aluminum wheels, steel trunion, cool block style guides and a smaller fence, where the X2 has the cast iron wheels, cast iron trunion, roller bearing guides, and a much better fence.
Hard to beat the upgrades for the price. Just looking at the saws again on grizzly. At te bottom of the page you will see a side by side comparison of several saws. To add the fence later is and extra $139. At most would upgrade to Carter guides at some point. And that’s another $264.
Quick add on, I agree with Tennessee, I bought the X2. I does take about 45 seconds for the saw to stop. Sometimes I wish I had the foot brake. I looked at it at the time I was buying, and it was just a bit more than my budget would allow.
I have use 1/4”, 1/2” and currently set up with a 3/4” blade on my X2. all worked great.
I had the cheapo Harbor Freight 14” saw when I bought the X2. I do wish I had kept it just to keep a 1/4” blade set up. That little saw did ok for small projects. cutting 1” thick curved work.

-- John

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Blindhog

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#3 posted 11-18-2018 03:36 PM

I’ll echo what Tennessee said about the 5013X2BF. It is a horse! I’ve had mine for around 3 years and it has cut everything I’ve asked it to; from poplar to Bubinga, resaw to fine curves (using the Carter Stabilizer) all without any problems. I do not use the foot brake as the motor brake works flawlessly and as stated previously, stops the blade very quickly without any sort of jerking.
I was torn between a 14” and a 17 inch for initial purchase; I’m glad I decided to go with the 17. It breezes through wood of all species and I have definitely put the extra resaw capacity to good use.
Good luck with your decision and enjoy your new toy!

-- Don't let perfection get in the way of plenty good enough

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jta

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#4 posted 12-01-2018 04:18 AM

Given the discount which covers shipping – put in an order for an G0513X2 today. Excited to have it coming soon and having a chance to play with it. Thanks for the advice, really helpful.

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Redoak49

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#5 posted 12-01-2018 12:30 PM

Personally, I would go with the 14” . I base that on what I would actually cut. For me, I would almost never resaw something that is 12”. Most of what I resaw would be in the range of 6-8”.

When asking the question about which bandsaw to buy, one should figure out how they will use it. It is so easy to want the biggest baddest tool.

I have a 16” Bandsaw but recently bought a 10” Rikon with a Carter Stabilizer. I am amazed at how often I use the small one.

If I had it to do over, I probably would buy a 14” bandsaw.

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#6 posted 12-01-2018 01:53 PM



Given the discount which covers shipping – put in an order for an G0513X2 today. Excited to have it coming soon and having a chance to play with it. Thanks for the advice, really helpful.

- jta

I purchased the G0513ANV a couple weeks ago and have not complaints. With that being said, i would have preferred to spend the extra $150 on the upgrades you are getting with the X2. Plus it doesn’t come with that hideous bear logo and ugly orange paint. Great purchase!

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jta

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#7 posted 12-02-2018 11:58 AM

Given that I’m experimenting with a band-saw only shop (no table saw, with duties fulfilled by a circular saw/track, a CSM, and a router/router table) – I decided that the 17” was more in line with what I would need to perform the resawing and processing of raw lumber for the jointer/planer. The difference between the bearings seems to be a big issue for folks, and given the advice above and what else I’ve read was worth the additional investment of the X2.

Shall see if the stuff I do (predominantly not a sheet goods user) is covered by this combo.

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