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Forum topic by TopamaxSurvivor posted 09-03-2011 07:18 PM 1886 views 0 times favorited 41 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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TopamaxSurvivor

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09-03-2011 07:18 PM

Topic tags/keywords: crimson trace laser sight deterrent firearm self defense

The testimonies are precisely the reason I use these sights; deterrent. Hopefully, the deterrent will prevent having to use the weapon in self defense.

http://www.crimsontrace.com/Home/LasersInAction/tabid/652/Default.aspx

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence


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#1 posted 09-03-2011 09:24 PM

Topa, Pictures being worth a thousand words, looking down at a laser spot on your shirt should de-escalate any situation involving sane people. Besides, if an intruder is too dumb to be deterred, the cats will chase him out of the house. -Jack

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#2 posted 09-04-2011 05:00 AM

One can only hope they are that smart and not on drugs or something. I have had lowlife coming to steal tools come back for a 2nd look at a 12 gauge shotgun ;-(( Fortunately, we have annexed into a city and the cops come the same year they are called. Unfortunately, that is not a wise crack. King County Police can’t be cut during budget cuts because they don’t have any out here to cut ;-(

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#3 posted 09-05-2011 09:47 AM

Seems you are having the same problem with cops being cut out there Bob as we are having here.

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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#4 posted 09-05-2011 01:06 PM

Topamaxsurvivor, thanks for sharing. I forwarded the link to the president of the local gun club, of which I am a member.

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#5 posted 09-05-2011 06:42 PM

You are welcome. I hope more people see the potential of deterrent value and preventing the use deadly force necessity.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#6 posted 09-06-2011 09:59 PM

If you are facing that situation, don’t turn it on ;-)) ;-))

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#7 posted 09-08-2011 02:38 AM

Ya think that will work stuck under a Winchester. Or will the racking of shell into the chamber have the same effect?

Like you said Topomax, you hope they are smart enough and sober enough to understand and not keep on coming at you where you have to defend your self.

-- Jim Jakosh.....Practical Wood Products...........Learn something new every day!! Variety is the Spice of Life!!

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#8 posted 09-08-2011 11:23 PM

That is why defensive positions should have a bright light in front of, beside you or overhead. Or, you can carry a flashlight that will shine 100yds at night. Blowing away unidentified supposed threats is the highway to prison as well as civil court.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#9 posted 09-10-2011 03:13 AM

The laser spot is a good tactic. Another is to use the off hand (assuming a pistol in the other) to shine a bright light in the adversary’s eyes. Sweep it into and out of his eyes. He’s blind until his eyes readjust to the darkness. He’s yours to take down, if need be.

As far as racking a firearm, yes that works. Back in the gas “shortage” in the late ‘70, one of my younger brothers spotted a guy siphoning gas from his car. Racked his 12-Gauge. Well, the guy took off running, and my bro had to beat feet downstairs and outside to get the 5/8” garden hose out of the tank before all his gas ran down the alley! heh heh

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#10 posted 09-13-2011 02:18 AM

I think that there good arguments on both sides of this argument. In this state (KY) it is legal to use deadly force to protect property which allows wider latitude than “fear for my life”. This is also a state where the politics of not providing necessary services as gotten many office holders reelected under the guise of ‘keeping taxes down’. As a result the county I live in has a sheriff and 1/2 of a state trooper. (he covers 2 counties) My only hope for law enforcement may well come out of the end of a gun.

-- RTB. stray animals are just looking for love

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#11 posted 09-13-2011 02:56 AM

rtb, that is pretty much the way it was here before we annexed into the city. Unfortunately, the bulk of the jury pool has police protection or were not affected enough to know they didn’t or still don’t ;-((

People used to tell me they didn’t have those kinds of problems in their neighborhoods. I would tell them I know they don’t talk much to their neighbors. The response was usually no, they didn’t talk to them much. How did I know that. Because the problem is every where. If I saw them later, they usually told me it was worse than they realized after they ask around the neighborhood.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#12 posted 09-13-2011 03:07 AM

cr1, as the saying goes, better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

-- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

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#13 posted 09-13-2011 04:14 AM

Average Police response time is about 10 minutes.

9mm travels at approximately 1200 ft per second.

Which gives you best chance for survival?

Nice link Topa. I located adealer near me and will see them this weekend.

-- “When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” ― Thomas Sowell

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#14 posted 09-13-2011 04:50 AM

They obviouisly did not include King County WA PD in that average. I have many suspicious activity calls the crime prevention officer said they wanted called in that have not received a response in 15 years. Many of those incidents required citizen preventive activities prevent criminal acts.

-- Bob in WW ~ "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#15 posted 09-13-2011 03:04 PM

The very worst position that we can all be in is if and when the government decides to take up all firearms (except the criminals firearms – they won’t turn them over). No doubt many an honest man will become a criminal because they won’t turn there’s in either. The right to keep and bear arms is the bedrock of all of our other rights. There is no doubt to me that criminals are deterred by firearms and they would much prefer to commit a crime against a victim that did not possess one. That sight is interesting, Topa. Thanks.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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