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626 days ago |
Topic tags/keywords: tapering thickness small The clock plan that I recently started on shows a piece of white oak 4” x 9 5/8” being tapered from 1” thick at bottom to 3/4” at the top. The page of the plan in question is shown below:
I’m a little stumped as to how I should go about tapering the thickness of a piece this size. I tried lifting one end up 1/4” and running it through the planer, but it keeps getting stuck and getting all chewed up. I also thought about using a tapering jig on the table saw, but my blade height is only 2 3/4” and this piece is 4”. Any suggestions? -- Bobthebuilderinmichigan |
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#1 posted 626 days ago |
You didn’t spec a tolerance….....so I’ll shoot for .005”(+/-.0025).Would simply rough cut on resaw to a line and finish on a right angle fixture on edge sander…...again,am assuming you just want a cpl.Flyin636 |
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#2 posted 626 days ago |
I wish I could claim that I thought of this, but I didn’t. It is based on a post I saw a while ago and cannot find again now. Assuming that you have a jointer, you could make a jig that holds the wood at the required angle for planing. First an isometric view that doesn’t show you all that much …
and now a side view with the left side removed …
The top is angled as required and the wood is stuck to the top using double-sided tape. The sides of the jig are sacrificial – they get planed down at the same time as your wood so you need one pair of sides per piece of wood that you are tapering. Different (I think) to the jig that I have based these sketches on, I have drawn the jig with a backstop so that the double-sided tape only has to hold the wood up, it does not need to prevent it from shearing off. I have drawn the backstop quite large so that you can also use it as a handle and have included a handle at the front. These should both make the jig safer to use. If you try this and it works, I’m sure everybody would benefit from you doing a blog on the process with the lessons you learn. -- I may have lost my marbles, but I still have my love of woodworking |
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#3 posted 626 days ago |
Have you considered doing this on the jointer? By carefully setting the leading edge of the piece, on the out feed table, and pushing it through it will create a “taper”. Just be careful! -- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the world's finest custom rolling pins! |
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#4 posted 626 days ago |
the things that can do this admirably well are hand planes and the band saw, and yes your table saw even with it’s shallow blade height. The plane and BS are obvious but the TS will require you to make a fixture to hold the piece so that you can flip the piece in the fixture. To mount the work in the fixture, I’d use what is called a “paper joint” to hold the piece to a fixture so that when you are done. you only need to use a chisel to pop the small glued portion away and tear the paper. Then clean it up with the hand plane and sandpaper -- When the moderator chooses sides, his site sucks. |
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#5 posted 626 days ago |
Well, you have all given me some real good options! Thank you for your time. Since I am not very proficient with the hand plane (I haven’t really gotten my plane all that tuned in yet), I think I will first try the jointer. In fact I just purchased a Ridgid JP06101 6 1/8” jointer on Craigs List. Once I receive my replacement blades, I’ll give it a go! Tootles, your shop drawings are awesome! They made it crystal clear. So, now I’m thinking “Duh! Why didn’t I think of that!” And . . . I WILL be careful. -- Bobthebuilderinmichigan |
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#6 posted 626 days ago |
for this taper on the jointer for safety sake i held it with a hooked hold down the front end is somewhat rippled so taking a complete light pass normal the finished board all clean -- david - only thru kindness can this world be whole . If we don't succeed we run the risk of failure. Dan Quayle |
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#7 posted 625 days ago |
David, -- Bobthebuilderinmichigan |
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#8 posted 625 days ago |
Handplane? -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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#9 posted 625 days ago |
Patron’s method looks simpler as it does not require a jig to be made. BUt if you do still want to try the jig, something occured to me after I shut down last night. It might be a little safer to move the front handle backwards a bit so that your fingers cannot slip down towards the jointer blade. Revised section drawing below:
I’m glad to see that you do have a jointer because the other thought that occured to me was “what if you do not have a jointer?” I had an idea for another jig based on the one above to do the job with a hand plane. Although you don’t need it, I may just sketch it up later and post it for reference by anybody else who finds this forum question later. -- I may have lost my marbles, but I still have my love of woodworking |
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#10 posted 625 days ago |
In instrument making and repair, I often invert a jack plane with a cambered iron Saw to the outside of the line and then work to the line with the inverted |
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#11 posted 625 days ago |
Okay, that didn’t take as long as I thought, so here is the suggestion for a jig to plane this by hand. First the isometric view:
Now the front view with hidden detail shown:
Please note that this jig is designed for a right handed person who would plane from right to left. A “leftie” would basically just need to swap the front with the back to get this to work for them. The wood sits on a base between two stops. No tape required, just gravity. The base is angled as required and fixed between the front and back so that the correct thickness is achieved at each end. The front piece if wood is wider than the back piece (4” vs. 2 1/2”) so that it may be clamped in your vice, the back just sits on the bench surface. The idea is to use a plane that has a relatively long toe and heel. A Stanley No. 5 is probably fine, but the toe of a no. 4 is probably too short. Rotate the plane to an angle of 45° to the wood grain and rest the heel on the back and the toe on the front (which is also why the hand jig is longer than the jointer jig). Push the plane in line with the grain. Continue until tapered surface is achieved. One note. I have shown both my jigs being made from wood 3/4” thick. That is not as necessary with the jointer jig – the sides could be 1/8” ply if you wanted. But the front and back of the hand plane jig should be thick. That is so that you can plane right up to the edge of the wood being tapered but can still prevent the blade from shaving away any of the outer edges of the front or back. That means that the jig remains accurate. Oh, one other thing. The hand jig can be used over and over again. There are no sacrificial parts in it as there are in the jointer jig. -- I may have lost my marbles, but I still have my love of woodworking |
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#12 posted 625 days ago |
Thank you again for all your help. I’ll let you know how it turns out in the next couple of days! -- Bobthebuilderinmichigan |
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#13 posted 625 days ago |
My first choice would be a handplane, but I will offer another option to consider. A belt sander with a relatively course grit can remove a lot of material quickly. I would prefer a stationary belt sander but a hand held will also do the trick. -- Rich, Cedar Rapids, IA - I'm a woodworker. I don't create beauty, I reveal it. |
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#14 posted 624 days ago |
I found it! Credit for the ideas behind the jigs above go to KnickKnack in this blog Thanks mate -- I may have lost my marbles, but I still have my love of woodworking |
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#15 posted 623 days ago |
Tootles, Patron, -- Bobthebuilderinmichigan |
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