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joshtank

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08-31-2011 05:16 PM

Topic tags/keywords: router

I have a craftsman contractor style saw with a delta t2 fence. I want to put a router table in the top to the right of the blade where the cast iron wing is. I got a lami ated kitchen counter top, almost got it all worked out how it bolts on. Not the best, but the price was right.

I am thinking about the porter cable 892 so I can adjust from above the table. And a plate I’m guessing?

Any thoughts on why this isn’t a good first router table set up, and any ( priced similarly) recommendations you may have?

-- Josh - Jacksonville, FL, http://jubinsky.wordpress.com


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#1 posted 08-31-2011 05:22 PM

Go with the MOTOR ONLY version of the PC 7518 (will spin all bits as it is 3+ hp) – and get a plate with a lift so you can adjust from the top (lots of brands options: Jessm, Woodpeckers, etc). You wont regret it! The motor only is about $300 and the plate is about $300.

- ryan

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#2 posted 08-31-2011 05:28 PM

I recommend the Triton 2 1/4 (I have one). See reviews and threads with search.

http://www.amazon.com/Triton-MOF001C-4-Horsepower-Precision-Router/dp/B000DINFHY/ref=sr_1_1?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1314804381&sr=1-1

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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#3 posted 08-31-2011 05:30 PM

Before, Bubinga posts it, I’ll say it first. I’d probably look at a Triton router with built-in lift functionality.

The issue with going with TOO big of a router AND a lift might be in your ability to eliminate sagging in your TS extension and/or the way you have it bolted on. Not to say that you can’t engineer it to be solid, but it’s just something to be aware of outside of a commercial solution.

In other words, a router/lift combination can be very heavy.

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#4 posted 08-31-2011 05:30 PM

Oh, looks like David beat me to it!!! LOL!

-- jay, www.allaboutastro.com

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#5 posted 08-31-2011 05:55 PM

The PC 892 can adjust from above the table but that’s it (like many routers). The Triton (and Freud FT1700 and FT3000) can adjust and lock/unlock height from topside, plus they have collets that protrude through the plate and an auto collet lock…the collet nut can be reached from above for easy one handed topside bit changes. I don’t know of any others that offer all these above table features.

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#6 posted 08-31-2011 06:18 PM

I’ve got the big Triton 3hp in a benchdog system. It works flawlessly and is cheap. I’ve always had PC in my table until this one. If you want to drop the big bucks on a router raizer and a big honking PC motor, you’ll definitely have a much better quality system than mine but it’ll add up.

Here’s mine. I got the table for around $400 I think (but you’ve already got one). The plate was maybe $40 (but I had to cut a hole for the adjustment arm). The router was less than $200 on sale. I would never use the router above the table but I’ve been really happy with this setup.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#7 posted 08-31-2011 06:20 PM

Another thing about the Triton, like Knott mentions, is you can just grab that big knob (the one above on the right) and crank the whole machine up quickly to expose the collet. The collet then locks automatically and you can change the bit from above the table. Although I can change height from above the table, I rarely use this option because mine is so easy to reach. Of course, in a more enclosed system, this would be awkward. The Triton also has a dust shield below the table that you can split off the fence 2 1/2”. It’s probably around 1 1/2” but I haven’t ever used mine.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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joshtank

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#8 posted 08-31-2011 06:48 PM

$250 for the triton and $60 or so for a bench dog plate sounds decent. $300 for router and $300 for lift is insanity for me right now. kid on the way etc.

the table is a kitchen counter top sort of a fiberboard with laminate top. i am beefing it up on the underside with oak and maple i have, and bolting it onto the table and fence rails. two questions

1. i know the fiberboard stuff is pretty crappy and could soak up moisture etc. would applying a few coats of poly to the fiberboard (underside) seal it up and help it last longer / not soak up moisture?

2. i see some of the router plates you all have posted pictures of are bolted on. i’m thinking that won’t be a viable option with the table underlayment i have. do they have to be bolted, or is the weight of the router enough? if i do have to bolt them, would making attaching frame on the underside to bolt through be the best way to do this?

thanks.

-- Josh - Jacksonville, FL, http://jubinsky.wordpress.com

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Bertha

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#9 posted 08-31-2011 06:50 PM

If the table is rabbeted, the plate shouldn’t move around much but you’re going to want levelers or shims. I would plan on screwing the plate on but you don’t need anything too aggressive in case you need to pop it out.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#10 posted 08-31-2011 07:54 PM

$60 rebuilt ryobi, not the best but it has served well with no complaints
I built the rest.

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#11 posted 08-31-2011 07:57 PM

^In terms of cool, DW’s got me lapped for days. This is one of those things that us hobby woodworkers have gone a bit crazy with. A board with a router nailed to it will work. Now we have fully enclosed metal cabinets with anodized aluminum lifts, digital height gauges, Incra positioners, and uber dust collection. I’m all for it, don’t get me wrong. My work simply doesn’t demand a $3000 router table. If it did, I’d probably buy a $3000 shaper.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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joshtank

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#12 posted 09-01-2011 09:43 PM

well my birthday is coming up and my parents are paying for half of the Triton 2 1/4 for me. good times. thanks for the advice everyone.

now off to find plans to make a router table fence that works with my table saw fence

-- Josh - Jacksonville, FL, http://jubinsky.wordpress.com

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