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WoodworkingGeek

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08-29-2011 09:00 PM

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Hi LJ’s!!
I looking into getting a table saw and have a few on cregslist. Now, I’m not looking for anything big or expensive, So these are a few I found.

http://dayton.craigslist.org/tls/2535264825.html
This one is a direct drive saw is that something good? The price $80

http://dayton.craigslist.org/tls/2531003384.html
This looks a little older than the other one but still in good shape. The price $120

http://dayton.craigslist.org/tls/2540474976.html
A nicer fence than the others and the saw looks In good shape. The price $150

http://dayton.craigslist.org/tls/2571506865.html
Newer and a great price. $150

Please give me your advice!! Whats your advice on what saw is best??
Thanks!!
Matthew


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#1 posted 08-29-2011 09:03 PM

You get what you pay for.

#1 is a boat anchor. #2 is decent, but not great. #3 looks like a decent deal with nice fence and link-belt. Among these 3 machines, #3 wins.

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#2 posted 08-29-2011 09:06 PM

I like number 3 also but start with a lower offer tell him you’ll pick it up today for 100 cash and see what he says, I just got a guy to go down from 475 to 250 thanks to some helpful advice on this site so its possible.

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WoodworkingGeek

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#3 posted 08-29-2011 09:10 PM

#3 Does not have a blade guard or splitter What should I do about that?

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#4 posted 08-29-2011 09:15 PM

I agree with #3. The stock fences on these saws are mediocre at best, so #2 would need some work. As for the blade gaurd, you can usually pick 1 up on ebay. If you can get that saw for $100-$125, the fence itself is worth that. You won’t get a splitter with any of these older saws.

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#5 posted 08-29-2011 09:17 PM

I actually just purchased a Ridgid TS 3650 and it had the origional splitter but someone told me I could probably find one for it at Rockler if it didnt have it so maybe he could find a splitter for that saw.

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#6 posted 08-29-2011 09:20 PM

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#7 posted 08-29-2011 09:21 PM

I also want to pass on another valuable piece of advice I recieved here from knotscott who is somewhat of an authority on TS blades. He told me to get a new blade it would be as valuable as the new to me tablesaw and than he went on to recommend a brand called Onsrud, they are a german firm that makes blades and I guess one of the guys used to work for freud. Knotscott says they compare almost identically with the higher end TS blades but they are on sale clearance on Ebay right now with free shipping I picked up a brand new 10 blade for 21.00 the origional bid and a 8 inch Dado stack for 51. Check out my forum post about my TS question and read his info on blades its very informative and it saved me a ton of money. the post was “Need some helpful advice on a TS deal”

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#8 posted 08-29-2011 09:29 PM

#3. The fence can make a basic tablesaw better but a bad fence can take a great saw and make it junk. I’ve used that #2 craftsman fence on a tablesaw that was given to me and after a few cuts I sold it due primarily to the fence.

Definitely #3

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#9 posted 08-29-2011 09:33 PM

Looks like you are looking for a light weight saw. My favorite for that purpose is the Ryobi BT3100 or BT3000. Extremely accurate, lightweight, belt drive and even though Ryobi doesn’t make them anymore, Craftsman does.
Join http://www.bt3central.com/ and look through their classifieds. Even a saw that needs a motor rebuild is better than a lot of what you are looking at. You can also find the more powerful 15 amp motors for 450 to $100 on that site at times, and even on eBay.

BTW…. I just bought a complete, running BT3100 with very little use for $50. It included every possible accessory available, including the extension outfeed, the right hand extension and the extended miter fence, along with the micro adjust fence guide, 4 Freud LU/LN series blades, dual miter slot addition and the router table accessory kit.

They are out there… keep looking.

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#10 posted 08-29-2011 09:35 PM

Are you sure there is not a guard with it. They are usually stuck on a shelf somewheres under a layer of dust.

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#11 posted 08-29-2011 09:47 PM

here is on that sold cheaper. I think if you watched you would get one cheaper.

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#12 posted 08-30-2011 03:47 AM

The Ryobi saws are not in the same class as these Emerson-made examples (#2 and #3) as they are direct drive with less-powerful motors. I owned one of these Craftsman saws bought in 1991 (which is probably about the same era as #3) and it came with a blade guard and splitters that worked quite well. The whole assembly could be easily removed by loosening one cap screw. The cast-iron wings are much more desirable than the stamped-steel ones. The only problem is that it’s too easy to get a finger caught between one of the webs and the fence. Don’t ask me how I know this. I’ve seen some people who make plywood inserts cut to fit into the web spaces to prevent this. I replaced the fence with an Incra-TS, the stock pulleys with machined ones and the belt with a link belt.

#3 is the one. That’s a Biesemeyer-style fence and with a link belt, it’s a very good saw.

Get a set of P.A.L.S. for it so that you can more easily adjust the trunion square with the top. And buy yourself a Forrest WWII blade. For a total of less than $300, you’ll have a first-rate contractor saw that will handle almost anything you can throw at it.

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#13 posted 08-31-2011 01:08 PM

Some things you might consider before spending your hard earned cash is, what is the condition of all of these on-line saws? Are they warped? Is the motor good? Can any defective area be replaced or fixed? I hope you see where I’m going with this. You’re not getting a bargain if you have to spend more money to make the item work for you. Remember, you will not have a warranty or other vehicle to recoup your money should things not turn out as expected. Before spending your money, ask yourself what do you plan to use the saw for? How much space do you have for one? Can it be setup and left there or does it need to be stored in a different location from where you will use it? Knowing what my money means to me, I’d hate to see you not get good value for yours. Good luck!

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#14 posted 08-31-2011 01:20 PM

I wouldn’t worry about not having a guard. The guards that were supplied with #3 were junk and are probably more dangerous with than without.

BTW – I never use a guard and have never cut my self (with the table saw).

-- Joe

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#15 posted 08-31-2011 01:28 PM

Aside from the red paint, #3 looks like a pretty sweet deal. The fence upgrade and link belt are not only nice to have features, but it shows that someone cared how the saw performed.

#4 could be a solid performer too, but I’d go with #3 first if still available (better fence, made in the USA).

The guards from all these Emerson and Ryobi made contractor saws were pretty similar, and might even be interchangeable. You can also add a Microjig splitter, a Shark Guard, or make something yourself.

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