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RPhillips

1233 posts in 2009 days


11-07-2018 07:36 PM

I’m having a little trouble sourcing hardware for my project. I want to build a couple guitar stands for my collection and I found a design i really like. The hardware which holds the guitar by hanging it from the bottom of the head stock uses what looks like standoffs used for commercial glass shelving and displays. I’ve found some stand offs that are similar, but nothing that will work without some additional machining. I may just use wood dowels, but I like the idea of the aluminum hardware for this.

If anyone has any advice on where to find something similar, please share.

Thanks.

-- Rob - Indianapolis IN - Learning... one mistake at a time...


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lumbering_on

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#1 posted 11-07-2018 08:48 PM

Not sure how large you need, but have you considered a cross dowel aka barrel nut?

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Manitario

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#2 posted 11-07-2018 09:10 PM

Check this site out, it’s one of the larger guitar-making suppliers on the internet:
https://www.stewmac.com/

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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SMP

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#3 posted 11-07-2018 10:56 PM

You know, I saw some of those types of parts when I redid my staircase, so would check online dealers of parts for stairs and railings, and glass doors, think glass railings and staircases, the modern look. BTW, some may be stainless vs aluminum

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Kazooman

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#4 posted 11-07-2018 11:22 PM

Google “guitar hanger for wall”. Lots to choose from. Click on the images view to browse. Look for the Hercules brand. Their hook has a mechanism that it activated by the weight of the guitar . It rotates two ears into place to trap the neck in the hook. I have two Hercules stands and they are great.

One thought if you really want to roll your own design. You will need to do something to ensure that the arms cannot rotate down and drop the guitar.

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CaptainKlutz

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#5 posted 11-08-2018 12:35 AM

Machining? Sort of….
Making parts like that is really easy, only need drill press, flat file, and proper size hand tap. Regardless of whether you use wood, plastic, or metal.

This is how I would make them:
1) Metal tube: Use a 1” OD, 1/4” wall tube, with a 3/8” button head socket cap screw (for rounded end cap) thru it to secure to a threaded insert in the wood post. For posts projecting out side of main tube; can use the same/smaller tube/bolt combo, attached into drilled/tapped holes in the cross tube. Both steel and aluminum are readily available from online sources. Stainless steel can be found, but not as common. These parts would be easy to cut, debur edges, smooth with 220-400 sand paper; then protect with spray lacquer. Could even be buffed to shiny chrome like appearance with buffing wheel on your bench grinder. :)

2) Solid rod stock: Use round metal stock, cut to length and drill/tap one end for 5/16” or 3/8” thread. Then use inserts in wood, and drill/tap on end for threaded shaft; using threaded rod to join them. Since the ‘knobs’ will need to be clamped with tool to tighten the threads, would have to be careful how you grab them (strap wrench), or use file to add a couple of flats near base – so you can put a open ended wrench on it.

In both cases above:
Aluminum might be easier to work with than steel, and aluminum parts could be made even without a drill press (though I recommend using one).

It will take longer to make them look pretty, then it takes to cut/drill/tap the pieces.

If you want something ‘soft’ for hanger surface, could use HDPE, Nylon, or Delrin rod material. Plastics are easier than wood to drill, and Nylon is even used for threaded rod, so you can blind tap holes to hide bolts. Can also cover a metal support with length of latex, polyethylene tubing (or bond leather like images).

Just in case you are not aware of online sources of these materials:

Plastic rod/tubing:
www.usplastics.com
www.mcmaster.com
www.onlinemetals.com

Metals:
www.onlinemetals.com
www.metalsdepot.com
onlinemetalsupply.com
www.speedymetals.com

I promise none of these online ‘sell by inch/foot’ sources are low cost. I can usually buy these same materials locally from industrial supply cut off/scrap bins for much less. But they are cheaper than having to buy an entire 10 ft long stick of material, when you need less than 1 foot. :)

Best Luck.

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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RPhillips

1233 posts in 2009 days


#6 posted 11-08-2018 03:11 AM

SMP, thanks for the suggestions, didn’t think about stairs.

Kazooman, I am familiar with those and the other styles available, but I’m really looking to keep true to the pics. Thanks for the feedback though.

Klutz, I have thought about making them, but not sure how hard it would be. It is an option, albeit my last. Thanks for the inspiration. I may actually end going this route.

-- Rob - Indianapolis IN - Learning... one mistake at a time...

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RPhillips

1233 posts in 2009 days


#7 posted 11-14-2018 08:13 PM

Well still no luck actually sourcing this hardware. I think I ‘m going to use wooden dowels and install a “surgical rubber” tubing section onto the pieces actually contacting the neck.

Thanks to all that took the time to reply to my thread.

-- Rob - Indianapolis IN - Learning... one mistake at a time...

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HokieKen

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#8 posted 11-14-2018 08:37 PM

Rob, I have a metal lathe and Aluminum stock. If you’re interested, shoot me a PM and we can work out a design and I can make some parts up for you.

-- Kenny, SW VA, Go Hokies!!!

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Andybb

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#9 posted 11-14-2018 09:31 PM

I saw those the other year and wanted to try and source them. They add a nice machined feel to hardwood stands. I forget which company uses them but I called to see if I could find out where they sourced them from. The person I spoke to wasn’t sure if they machined them themselves or outsourced them. Someone was supposed to call me back but that was 2 years ago and I kinda forgot about them. If you find out please PM me.

-- Andy - Seattle USA

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