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Forum topic by Jeff82780 posted 08-25-2011 04:35 AM 820 views 0 times favorited 9 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-25-2011 04:35 AM

WELL the good news is that my sharpening skells i think are becoming a little better and and finally cambered the plane iron on my #4 smoother. My question is that why is it that when the blade is barely protruding (but is protruding) the blade is not grabbing any of the board. this is only when i am planing the face of a board. when i turn the board on its side everything is ok. Its not until i have the blade sticking way out that i grab the wood, but i know the blade is to deep because half the time i am using all my might to push the plane.


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#1 posted 08-25-2011 04:40 AM

Is the face of the board flat? How much camber do you have?

You can use a small piece of wood (similar to a shim) to check where the blade is cutting.

Any chance of some photos?

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#2 posted 08-25-2011 04:53 AM

Also check the smoothness of your plane. Is it an older one with a bit of rust or dinged? But most of all, like Wayne asked… how much chamber? I simply sharpen my plane blades and knock off the burr – no chamber.
And to set the blade, I rest my plane heel on a piece of paper and let the blade fall off on the desk surface. If that’s not enough, then I add a sheet of paper… works for me.

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#3 posted 08-25-2011 06:07 AM

brand new plane. the face of the board was not flat. thats what i am trying to work on is flattening a wide board. just dont understand wht i can get good shavings from an edge, but barely nothing from the face

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#4 posted 08-25-2011 06:13 AM

Hmmm. Photos of the board? Perhaps a photo of the blade installed and set to depth.

How out of flat is the board?

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#5 posted 08-25-2011 09:34 AM

The wood is hollow, thus the plane’s sole is riding on the higher surface of the timber and the blade is not contacting the timber. Plane off the high spots. Go across the grain to start with then finish along the grain.

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#6 posted 08-25-2011 10:53 AM

Hi,

in the photo I can see sparkles on the edge like the blade has dings or burr. Thus it could (as the pressure you apply on the edge of a board is higher relative to the smaller surface) cut the edges of your board, but it doesn’t on flat stock. But that’s just one possible reason. I may be completely wrong.

In case it’s the twisted board try to turn it over. It should then definitely cut in some area. You can also try diagonal strokes. There must a high spot somewhere that the blade will get.

Hope this helps!

-- Alex ----- Bavaria in Germany

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#7 posted 08-25-2011 01:12 PM

i just took a straight edge to the board and it actually is pretty flat. my brand new block plane also has a bunch of dings in the end of the blade. when i get home from work late ill take more pictures. did the camber look good. i know it hard to tell. thanks guys!

thanks,jeff

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#8 posted 08-28-2011 03:02 AM

Just took my planers to some sandpaper and boy were they not flat like I thought they were. And now they are finally starting to work so much better

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#9 posted 08-28-2011 03:05 AM

blade edge looks very dinged up in the photo you posted, you should start by cleaning it up and sharpening it properly.

As for why the blade doesn’t ‘catch’ the wood – either your wood is not flat, or the planes sole is not flat, or both, or the blade needs to be protruded a bit more.

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