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Forum topic by PutnamEco posted 08-25-2011 01:15 AM 4374 views 0 times favorited 47 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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PutnamEco

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08-25-2011 01:15 AM

Topic tags/keywords: portable power tool circular saw classic

Are we going to let all the hand tool guys have all the fun? They have got some great threads going on drills, planes, and now saws with a lot of posts. So how bout we get going with some cool portable power tools?

I’ll start.

Here are some Black & Decker circular saws that I’ve collected through the ages.
On the right is my 60s era saw, a number 73. It has an all aluminum body and draws 13 amps. Next, 2nd from right, is one of the best saws ever made. The original Super Sawcat, number 997. This was the first saw that featured an electric blade brake. Hell on brushes, but I have not seen any other saw of this type that stops the blade as quickly. This saw also has a two piece shoe, with a removable piece on the blade side, that will allow you to cut closer to the blade then is possible with a standard one piece shoe. Next up, 2nd from the left, is a later generation of the Sawcat a model number 3057 type 1, which in my opinion is a poor imitation. These saws were B&Ds answer to Makitas 5007 which was selling very well during this era, due to it’s lower cost and decent quality. This saw was later made in Dewalt yellow and was just recently discontinued. The last saw on the left was a home owner quality saw, with a completely plastic body. Not a very high quality saw. I’ not very happy about the direction that Black & Decker went on through the ages to reach their position in the market today. I dream about a clone of the original Sawcat done in carbon fiber and titanium. I hope some American manufacturer steps up to the plate and again offers a world class portable circular saw. I would have NO problem paying Festool + prices for a real quality saw that was built to be durable and easy to repair rather than one that was built to be cheap and look good.

-- “The test of our progress is not whether we add more to the abundance of those who have much; it is whether we provide enough for those who have too little.” ― Franklin D. Roosevelt


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pierce85

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#1 posted 08-25-2011 01:41 AM

Nothing good can come of this. I’m trying to avert my eyes, but what exactly are those long black things that extend out from those monstrosities? I just threw up in my mouth a little…

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#2 posted 08-25-2011 01:58 AM

I had an 8” Super Sawcat once upon a time and it was one of the best saws I ever used, and abused, and killed unfortunately.
Oh….the good ol’ framing days…no wonder everythings hurts from my ankles up now….

-- Gary; Marysville, MI...Involve your children in your projects as much as possible, the return is priceless.

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Manitario

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#3 posted 08-25-2011 02:34 AM

nice collection. It’s a testament to how well made the saws are that they are still working today. It’s one thing to have a hand tool that is 100y old, but a 50y old circ saw that still runs I think is pretty impressive. My $70 B+D circ saw won’t be running 50y from now.
I wish I had an excuse to buy this circ saw….13” blade, runs on 220V and… is $2600

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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ferstler

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#4 posted 08-25-2011 02:36 AM

I have two portable circular saws.

1. A Skil Mag 77 worm-drive job. I like three things about it. First, the power. Second the left-side blade location that lets me see the line I am cutting more easily. Third, the narrow profile and balance. I usually keep a Freud Diablo combo blade on the thing. This is the slightly earlier 13-amp version, but, hey, it is hard to believe that the newer 15-amp job would be enough more powerful to matter all that much.

2. A Sears Craftsman corded trim saw with a 5.5-inch blade. I like three things about it. First, it is light in weight. Second, it has a left-side blade location just like the bigger Skil unit. Third, it has a laser-light guide that is surprisingly effective. I don’t like the fact that there is a very limited blade selection, and all of those that fit the arbor are only available from Sears in one style. (The catalog calls it a “part” and not a blade.) Still, as a trim saw it is a very nice item, with eight solid amps of cutting power.

Having any more saws that this would only make my shop more crowded than it already is.

Howard Ferstler

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gfadvm

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#5 posted 08-25-2011 03:43 AM

Those red Diablo blades will make a better saw out of most circ saws! DeWalt also makes a very thin kerf 71/4 blade that cuts amazingly well.

-- " I'll try to be nicer, if you'll try to be smarter" gfadvm

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#6 posted 08-25-2011 04:34 AM

How, exactly, do those work??? Do you hang them upside down under a table with a slot in it?

-- Accuracy is not in your power tool, it's in you

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Greg In Maryland

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#7 posted 08-25-2011 04:36 AM

Here is my contribution:

My dad’s late 50’s early 60’s Craftsman circular saw that I liberated from his basement:

and a 50’s or 60’s era Craftsman jig saw I picked up for $10 from a Habitat for Humanity Re-Store:

They both are tanks—pretty much all metal with a few plastic parts. They work like a charm and are a pleasure to use.

Somewhere in my dad’s basement is a similar era Black and Decker drill and Craftsman 1/4 sheet sander. I’ll be completely retro in the hand tool realm when I liberate them.

Thanks for looking

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thebigvise

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#8 posted 08-25-2011 05:27 AM

From about 1960, my Dad’s Skil saw and his 3 X 21 Stanley belt sander remain contributing members of my shop’s repertoire. I think of him with every use…

-- Paul, Clinton, NC

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pariswoodworking

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#9 posted 08-25-2011 06:36 PM

Here’s a really old Black and Decker jigsaw that still works. I can’t really find out much about it. I think it may be from the 40s or 50s. All of the info on it has pretty much chipped off. I think it says it is 115 volts. Does anybody know how I can find out more about it?



-- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

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#10 posted 08-25-2011 07:00 PM


HIJACKED

-- Pat - Worker of Wood, Collector of Tools, Father of one

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mmax

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#11 posted 08-25-2011 07:11 PM

Pariswood, here is some info on your B&D that I saw on ebay.

This is a working vintage Black & Decker Utility jig saw (Cat. No. U-410). I believe this is from 1967 because it has a sticker that reads “50th Year Black & Decker Power Tools” (B&D created the first power drill in 1917). This is about 7 1/2” tall & 6 1/2” long. Specs are: 115 Volt-AC, 2.0 Amps, 3600 SPM and Type B. There is a red rubber handle and 5’ cord (both in good supple condition).

-- Always remember you're unique, just like everyone else

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Chipy

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#12 posted 08-25-2011 07:24 PM

You should have named your post circular saws of your dreams:> Better watch out is that Bertha behind me?
Just kidding Bertha!

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pariswoodworking

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#13 posted 08-25-2011 07:38 PM

Thanks for the help mmax. I appreciate it.

-- Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former. -- Albert Einstein

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Bertha

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#14 posted 08-25-2011 07:59 PM

I’m still reeling from Rob’s Mafell. A 220V circular saw; that’s something you don’t see every day!

These are great pictures of great tools, fellas. Keep em coming!

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Bertha

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#15 posted 08-25-2011 08:01 PM

I can play! 1948 Delta Rockwell 20” bandsaw.
You can see my vintage JET TS looking on.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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