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Italo78

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10-18-2018 04:46 AM

Good day everyone.
I need help finding a good quality and low cost planer & jointer knives that are preferably made in the USA or Europe.
If you could possibly recommend a type, brand and store where these can be purchased I would greatly appreciate it.
I need a set of blades which I do not need to hide from the wife once UPS/FedEx knocks at the door.
I will plane black walnut that I need to get down about a 1/4 of an inch. These boards are not rough; however, I do plan to plane rough sawn wood in the future.

The planer i own is the Delta 13” Model 22-660
The jointer is a Powermatic Model 53
I lucked out and got these two pieces for a great used combo deal.

Thanks ahead of time and cheers to you all.

Windy City Tony


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MrUnix

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#1 posted 10-18-2018 05:26 AM

Both take pretty generic knives that can be found all over the place online from a variety of manufacturers (Freud, Powertec, American National Knife, etc..). Finding country of origin may be a bit more difficult though. You can also sharpen the knives that are in them now, multiple times, until they are just too short to be safe. Local sharpening should cost somewhere around a buck an inch give or take.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#2 posted 10-18-2018 10:40 AM

ive been getting the powertec blades for my delta for a few years now. theyre the best low price blades imo.
want higher quality check out what infinity tools has.

https://www.infinitytools.com/jointing-planing/jointer-planer-knives/high-speed-steel-planer-jointer-knives

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#3 posted 10-18-2018 02:29 PM

Can’t go wrong with Infinity Tools.

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#4 posted 10-18-2018 07:08 PM



Can t go wrong with Infinity Tools.

- waho6o9

+1 on this one!

-- It is not necessary for Some People to turn OFF the LIGHT to be IN the DARK! (Ontario, CANADA)

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Italo78

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#5 posted 10-30-2018 05:28 PM

Thanks to everyone for their replies.
I did order knives for both my Planer and my Jointer from InfinityTools.com.
I must say that I am a bit disappointed in the quality of the knives.
One of my jointer knives and two of my planer knives had a small nicks in them. I know that I am being a bit picky about knives, but I paid good money for a set of new knives that I would expect to be perfect.
The knives were packaged well, so I am assuming that is how they shipped from their manufacturing plant.
Well, thanks again to everyone and Cheers.

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#6 posted 10-31-2018 02:11 AM

Send Infinity Tools a pictured email and see what they say.

Bad news on the small nicks, means more work sanding them out.

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#7 posted 10-31-2018 03:34 AM

I had the same experience last month ordering a new set of jointer knives. Except it wasn’t a nick it was a deformed rolled edge. The knives I bought where from Tools today T1 hss.
I payed out of pocket to have them sharpened.

Those infinity knives look like a good deal are you getting good life from their D2 hss?

-- Aj

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#8 posted 10-31-2018 10:06 AM

IMHO – The infinity M2 HSS blades have about same durability as cheaper M4 HSS sold by PowerTech/etc. The V2 HSS blades and T1 HSS blade edges have lasted longer for my planer and jointer. Holbren and Oella Saw sell them at reasonable prices. Both sites also offer discount codes for members of certain (non-LJ) woodworking web forums.

YMMV

-- I'm an engineer not a woodworker, but I can randomly find useful tools and furniture inside a pile of lumber!

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#9 posted 10-31-2018 11:08 AM

I know this isn’t what you want to hear, but as far as “cost effective” there is zero chance you can beat a Shelix cutter head. The initial cost, especially compared to just a set of replacement blades appears out in left field….until you need 20-30 more sets of straight blades. I doubt 20-30 sets of blades would come close to the useful life of a Shelix, especially with four sides to each carbide cutter. Then add up all the time it takes to properly change them and set them up correctly. This is time out of your life you cannot get back.
Some of the other things you will hear repeated regarding a spiral cutter head I found to just not be true. Like zero tear out…yeah, okay. Or that it is “so much quieter than straight blades”....again, yeah, okay. My favorite, “because it is cutting on an angle it leaves the board so much smoother”.....wrong again…I didn’t find any of these to be true. But, there is no denying that it is way more cost effective in both blade wear and set up time at the end of the day.

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waho6o9

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#10 posted 10-31-2018 11:36 AM

To return any item within 30 days of purchase, please email customerservice@infinitytools.com to request a return merchandise authorization number. Restocking fees may apply. If you’re returning an item because it was damaged in transit or you believe it is defective, please be sure to offer a detailed description of the problem in your email and also include photos of the damage to both the product and the packaging.

customerservice@infinitytools.com

https://www.infinitytools.com/guarantee/

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Infinity

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#11 posted 10-31-2018 02:37 PM

Hi, Definitely give us a shout. If there is a problem with the knives you received please let us know. As Wahp6o9 posted, definitely send us an email to customerservice@infinitytools.com and if you can send us a couple pictures and we can take it from there and see what we can do to help.

Feel free to mention me, Andrew, in the email so that I can take a look personally.


Thanks to everyone for their replies.
I did order knives for both my Planer and my Jointer from InfinityTools.com.
I must say that I am a bit disappointed in the quality of the knives.
One of my jointer knives and two of my planer knives had a small nicks in them. I know that I am being a bit picky about knives, but I paid good money for a set of new knives that I would expect to be perfect.
The knives were packaged well, so I am assuming that is how they shipped from their manufacturing plant.
Well, thanks again to everyone and Cheers.

- Italo78


-- Infinity Tools

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Italo78

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#12 posted 10-31-2018 06:23 PM

I sent multiple pictures to Infinity’s Customer Service and all that Infinity could tell me is that after reviewing the pictures they “did not see anything that looks like the knives will not function as intended.” I guess the small indents on the edge of the knives are within their specifications.

The knives will need to be returned on my expense so that they can be tested to see if they are out of spec. If found to be out of spec, they will refund me the shipping cost and replace or refund me the cost of the knives. If not, then I will eat the cost of shipping and they will refund me (with possible re-stocking fees) for the knives.

I needed the knives to complete a project for a job that I am working on, so I had to reorder the knives – which I will not get in time. I have my fingers crossed that these knives will be in better shape then the first two sets that I ordered.
I can tell you this has been a bad experience with Infinity Tools and I am not sure that I will be using them in the future. I honestly would rather buy from a big box store or Amazon so that I can rest assure that if there are any problems then they will be resolved immediately.

Tony

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Infinity

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#13 posted 11-02-2018 03:49 PM

We make it a policy not to discuss specific orders via public forums but we think there might be room here to provide insight and help woodworkers understand what they can expect when they purchase a set of replacement planer or jointer knives, regardless of who they purchase from.

Insight #1 -
HSS planer and jointer knives will never come with a finely honed edge. We recommend giving a new set of knives a quick hone before installation and you can do this with a diamond hone. The goal here is to remove any burrs that may be present from factory sharpening and bring the knife to a sharper edge.

Insight #2 -
Carbide tipped knives will never feel as sharp as HSS. Without getting into metallurgy, carbide simply does not take as sharp of an edge as steel, however in high speed applications this is not a major concern. The benefits of carbide are the same for planer and joiner knives as they are for circular saw blades and router bits.

We have a video on our YouTube channel that covers the above points and lends some guidance to getting the most from your knives. I will post a link to the video on our YouTube page, if this isn’t allowed let me know and I will remove it. The video is also posted on our website.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?list=PLNg2hRBPVcyVsddAfuw31B2FXEJZMrcfL&time_continue=26&v=Hj9Tbq5ddjU

As always, we’re here to help with any questions and can be reached at customerservice@infinitytools.com

-- Infinity Tools

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Italo78

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#14 posted 11-02-2018 04:19 PM

The issue I have is not a burr which is a raised edge but an indent at the edge of the metal going in and not out. A diamond card would not help me in this case.
I am not trying to tarnish your name in any way. I just wanted a product that I could use out of the box with as little to no maintenance what so ever – other than setting the blade height of course.
I have ordered new knives and I will be returning the old knives.

- Tony

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