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AlaskaGuy

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10-15-2018 08:24 PM

I have a LN socket chisel that the handle keep falling off. I know they’ll do that when sitting in a drawer for a while but this one keep falling off even during use. When paring. What the fix please?

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!


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#1 posted 10-15-2018 09:05 PM

I assume you are putting it on correctly (rapping it hard on the bench top?)

I did have one that would not stay on. On close inspection I could see the metal of the socket was up against the wooden shoulder of the tapered tenon. The socket was hitting the shoulder before it tightened up. I pared back the shoulder about 1/8”, keeping the same angle on the tenon, and it seated perfectly.

Another possibility is that the tenon is too long, and bottoms out in the socket before tightening up. There you could take a bit off the tip of the tenon.

They do say you can epoxy the handle on, but that does rather defeat the purpose of the socket.

-- John

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#2 posted 10-15-2018 11:12 PM



I assume you are putting it on correctly (rapping it hard on the bench top?)

I did have one that would not stay on. On close inspection I could see the metal of the socket was up against the wooden shoulder of the tapered tenon. The socket was hitting the shoulder before it tightened up. I pared back the shoulder about 1/8”, keeping the same angle on the tenon, and it seated perfectly.

Another possibility is that the tenon is too long, and bottoms out in the socket before tightening up. There you could take a bit off the tip of the tenon.

They do say you can epoxy the handle on, but that does rather defeat the purpose of the socket.

- jmos


Thanks , yes I’m giving it a good rap.

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lumbering_on

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#3 posted 10-15-2018 11:15 PM

Depending on how lose it is you can try some Swel-Lock.

https://www.amazon.com/Behlen-S036-2604-Swel-Lock-2fl-oz/dp/B0006ZP8HY

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#4 posted 10-15-2018 11:16 PM

Any signs of it bottoming out? Hitting the shoulder?

I’ve heard hair spray works well for some reason or another. Or call LN and tell them to send another. They usually will in a heartbeat.

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#5 posted 10-16-2018 12:26 AM

Take a depth gauge and see if the handle bottoms out, if not, hairspray. Epoxy works, and if you need it to release, heat with a propane torch, not all that hot, and it will come loose.

-- Elvem ipsum etiam vivere

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#6 posted 10-17-2018 06:04 PM

1) make sure it hasn’t bottomed out.
2) make sure it isn’t hitting the shoulder.
3) run a pencil all over the inside of the socket, then put your handle on and twist it all around. It should leave graphite pretty much all over the handle. If it doesn’t and you just seek a couple rings, then you have a bad fit and need to work down the areas were the graphic is left, then repeat until you get pretty good coverage.

Coming from LN, I would expect no problems with 1,2, or 3.

4) whack the handle pretty hard when you insert it.
5) if all else fails, you can hit the handle with some hairspray before inserting.

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DBDesigns

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#7 posted 10-17-2018 07:11 PM

Gorilla Glue. If you ever need to get it out or replace it just shoot the socket with a heat gun and pull it right out.
I know..I know it’s not supposed to be glued in but really, why not?

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead

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AlaskaGuy

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#8 posted 10-17-2018 07:12 PM



1) make sure it hasn t bottomed out.
2) make sure it isn t hitting the shoulder.
3) run a pencil all over the inside of the socket, then put your handle on and twist it all around. It should leave graphite pretty much all over the handle. If it doesn t and you just seek a couple rings, then you have a bad fit and need to work down the areas were the graphic is left, then repeat until you get pretty good coverage.

Coming from LN, I would expect no problems with 1,2, or 3.

4) whack the handle pretty hard when you insert it.
5) if all else fails, you can hit the handle with some hairspray before inserting.

- chriscarter


Thanks chriscarter, I sipped everything and went with the hairspray. So far so good. If have anymore trouble I’ll follow your suggestions.

-- Alaskan's for Global warming!

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#9 posted 10-17-2018 07:14 PM



Gorilla Glue. If you ever need to get it out or replace it just shoot the socket with a heat gun and pull it right out.
I know..I know it s not supposed to be glued in but really, why not?

- DBDesigns


Which type of Gorilla Glue? The make several different ones.

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DBDesigns

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#10 posted 10-17-2018 08:32 PM

The very first formulation that uses pressure and moisture as an catalyst.
It will glue metal, glass, plastic, wood, your shoes, the cat, you name it. (makes a hell of a mess!)

I have been using it to rehab old socket chisels for several years now. Tighten the chisel in a bench vise, wet the handle, apply the glue, and use a bar clamp to hold the handle in the socket. (Make sure the chisel edge doesn’t protrude below the vise so the edge is not damaged. I use a 24” Pony clamp. The Gorilla glue will foam out of the socket so be ready to deal with that.

I usually do this before I finish the handles. Then I just sand it and dip the handle in a can of poly and put upside down in the same vise to dry.

-- I remember when Grateful wasn't Dead

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#11 posted 10-17-2018 08:38 PM

No Glue!

Hairspray.

Yep, it works.

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