| Forum topic by Manitario | posted 646 days ago | 1082 views | 1 time favorited | 23 replies | ![]() |
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Topic tags/keywords: handplane restoration I’ve started to restore a couple of hand planes and I have a few questions for those of you with more experience with this. First plane is a Stanley Bailey #4 type 12. I’ve been attempting to flatten the sole; how flat is flat enough?? I have read that the important parts are to have the toe, mouth and heel all flat relative to each other. Currently it appears that there is a very slight convexity to the sole, ie. the toe and heel are 0.002” and 0.004” out compared to the mouth. The other question regarding this plane is the edge of the mouth is not perfectly even; the pic demonstrates it better Does this matter or should I keep taking metal off? Second plane is a Stanley Sweetheart #5; the sole is surprisingly flat, but has several scrapes in it, again the pic shows this better than I can describe it. Does this matter; should I work these out? I’m excited to get these planes working and to start using handplanes in my shop. -- Rob, Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario |
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#1 posted 646 days ago |
0.002-.004 would be just fine in my shop, as would the irregular mouth. I’m interested to see the comments below. They will determine whether I’m 1) practical or 2) a slob. ;) -- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog |
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#2 posted 646 days ago |
I’m all for being practical…as much fun as it is to sand a plane sole for hours… -- Rob, Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario |
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#3 posted 646 days ago |
When it’s all uniformly shiny, it’s done. That’s my theory, anyway. -- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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#4 posted 646 days ago |
I would agree the sole is flat enough. Your flat to the thickness of a typical shaving… Which side of the photo of the mouth is the front edge? Top or bottom? -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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#5 posted 646 days ago |
Hi Wayne; the front edge is bottom in the pic. -- Rob, Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario |
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#6 posted 646 days ago |
Then I would say the mouth is fine… -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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#7 posted 646 days ago |
I’ve never measured mine. What a novel idea. :-) I hit it with the sand paper until it touches all the relevant parts, which is what Charlie said I believe.Scratches shouldn’t effect it rememberer some are completely corrugated. My true test….how does it work? -- There is nothing like the sound of a well tuned hand plane. - http://timetestedtools.wordpress.com (timetestedtools at hotmail dot c0m) |
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#8 posted 646 days ago |
Also, are you flattening the sole with the frog and blade in? -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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#9 posted 646 days ago |
yep, the frog/blade are in as I lap the sole. -- Rob, Sault Ste. Marie, Ontario |
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#10 posted 646 days ago |
: ^ ) -- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov |
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#11 posted 646 days ago |
Place the plane on a flat surface, glass, does it spin, can you get a thin feeler gauge of piece of paper between the 2 surfaces? Do they prduce good shavings? It is not about being shiny, but areas of the plane need to be flat relative to each other. |
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#12 posted 646 days ago |
Manitario. Sharpen the blade and make some shavings BEFORE you start lapping. Then make the sole shiny, flat or whatever YOU feel looks good. Make shavings again and compare the difference ! -- "My mission in life - make everyone smile !" |
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#13 posted 646 days ago |
” It is not about being shiny, but areas of the plane need to be flat relative to each other.” No, it’s not about being shiny. But if you take a plane with a patina on the sole and start lapping it on a flat surface, looking at the sole intermittently, once everything is shiny, it is flat enough. -- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood" |
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#14 posted 646 days ago |
^agree with Charlie. Unless your plane’s been aggressively lapped on some kind of weird plane that’s not perpendicular to the sides; and everything’s touching down, you’re good to go (IMO). -- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog |
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#15 posted 646 days ago |
A couple of mine. Stanley (U.K.) Nos.4 and 4 1/2, Both with Bubinga woodware. Smoothcut Japanese laminated Blue steel blades with Quangsheng chipbreakers. I bought the No.4 1/2 in 1968. A few handles/totes and knobs under construction. |
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