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08-15-2011 04:54 AM

How much would a small crack (less than 1”) in the side of a Bed Rock smoothing plane affect its value? No metal is missing, the crack just starts at the edge and extends into the metal. Can a crack like that be “arrested” so that it won’t expand?

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#1 posted 08-15-2011 05:03 AM

You can drill the end of it to stop it spreading. Often cracks are brazed,
but it’s usually quite obvious it’s been done.

For a common Bedrock, it’s going to knock the value down by a lot. For
a rare one, who knows?

You’ve got what we call a “user”. With crack I think you might get
about $80 on ebay for it. Without, $150-200.

Several years ago i sold a bedrock smoother for over $200 on ebay, but
2 years ago a bedrock jointer I sold fetched about $150. My opinion is general
values for iron bench planes are falling as high quality modern planes
flow into the market.

Sometimes corrugations add to a plane’s value.

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#2 posted 08-15-2011 05:06 AM

My opinion is: The crack can be brazed. It will still be a great user, but a large part of the cost of a bedrock is the “collectors” value, and that is going to be affected. I’d still buy it, I’d just pay less for it and use it until I can’t do woodworking anymore.

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#3 posted 08-15-2011 05:09 AM

Which model plane is it? Do you have a photo?

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#4 posted 08-15-2011 05:21 AM

It’s a #4 Bed Rock, but not in great cosmetic shape. I don’t have a photo, unfortunately.

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#5 posted 08-15-2011 05:22 AM

Square side or round side? Oh and do you already own it?

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#6 posted 08-15-2011 05:28 AM

and if you don’t already own it, what is its price?

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#7 posted 08-15-2011 05:34 AM

Where I am going, is if it is a round side version, then I do not think there is much advantage over a standard Stanley bailey plane. Also if the crack was in the area of the mouth, I would be worried that it could impact the structure of the plane even if repaired.

If you do not own it yet, well…..

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#8 posted 08-15-2011 01:57 PM

I don’t own it yet, and the tagged price is $50. It’s the round-sided version. Appears to be a Type 2 or 3, because the lever cap says “STANLEY R&L CO. BED ROCK”.

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#9 posted 08-15-2011 02:31 PM

You probably won’t lose money when/if you resell at that price. You
might even make a few bucks. I’d get the crack fixed on a user
plane. If the crack works into the mouth, it’s a much worse problem.

The Bedrocks do work well, as well as a nice Bailey anyway and with
a little more heft. The touted throat adjustment is a gimmick in
my opinion – a swell feature to be sure, but not really that useful
as a practical matter in woodworking.

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#10 posted 08-15-2011 02:36 PM

Maybe I’ll just pass on this one, since the Type 2s and 3s are not much different from Baileys. I think later Bed Rock models were the ones with more sophisticated adjustment features for the frog.

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#11 posted 08-15-2011 02:56 PM

I would agree.

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