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Forum topic by CLS89 posted 10-01-2018 12:16 PM 404 views 0 times favorited 5 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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CLS89

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10-01-2018 12:16 PM

I recently purchased a 113.299315 Craftsman Table Saw from craigslist. The saw is in great condition. Key features include cast iron top, belt driven motor, 3HP Motor. I’m looking at making the following improvements/changes. I just need some advice on how to go about it from some experienced members.

1.) I would like to purchase a dado insert plate. The user manual for this model shows part number 9-29997 as the insert plate. Per Sears’ service part division, the manufacturer no longer makes the dado plate for this table saw. Are there any third party inserts I could use? I’m sure I could make my own? Would I be able to make one without bandsaw or router? I have a jigsaw and a random orbital sander to round the profile of the insert. Just not sure how accurate the insert will be with these tools.

2.) I would like to upgrade the retractable wheels and leveling feet on the stand. What type of retractable wheel base system do you recommend? Also a set of leveling feet that are easily adjustable would be nice. Recommendations are appreciated.

3.) I’ve heard a lot of bad things about the fence for these type of saws. I was surprised. The fence isn’t all that bad. It’s square/parallel to the miter slots and its pretty repeatable when changing the distance from the blade. If I do choose to upgrade what are my options? What’s recommended?

Thanks


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Steve

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#1 posted 10-01-2018 01:44 PM

congrats on your new saw!!

if you search around the site for craftsman 113 or other variants of that combination, you’ll uncover tons of excellent information about upgrades, maintenance, etc for these saws.

I would look into building a mobile workstation for that saw.

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toolie

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#2 posted 10-01-2018 02:11 PM

Congrats on purchase. I have two similar saws and enjoy them.

One important note at the outset. The motor is not a true three horse power motor. 3 hp motors only work on 220 or higher voltage is. The motor on your saw is probably either one or one and a half hp. That being said, There is a little in a hobbyists shop it will not handle.

I Make my own dado inserts. Check online for YouTube videos. The difficulty you will experience is that, unlike hybrid and cabinet size, the inserts on these craftsman saws is very thin. I use quarter inch MDF and rabbet the underside of the edge to make it sit on the lip within the blade throat to accommodate the required thickness. IMHO, buying them is not wort the cost.

As far as a mobile base is concerned, a herc-u-lift, If you can find one on craigslist or eBay, is best for this saw. As a second choice, I would look at the wood River mobile base on the Woodcraft website. It usually goes on sale for somewhere between 50 and $60 and is a very good mobile base. It is much better than the retractable wheels that are on your saw at present.

With regard to the fence, one of my saws has an OEM fence similar to yours. The second of my saws which are similar to yours has a delta T2 fence on it. I find the OEM fence to be as reliable as the Delta T2. Be sure to read all the instructions that go along with the fence and it should perform as well as any T-square fence. Just be sure to register the head of the fence against the front fence rail prior to engaging the fence lock. This will eliminate the majority of the problems experienced by users Who do not do this.

Good luck with your new saw.

-- there's a solution to every problem.......you just have to be willing to find it.

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Bill Berklich

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#3 posted 10-01-2018 02:12 PM

I have an earlier model of this saw. Peachtree or Woodcraft (Leecraft) both have zero clearance phenolic inserts which is what I use and they work great and its worth it to have 2-3.

Looks like an Exact-i-rip fence, again I have it too. It’s a great fence but does require care and feeding. Make sure you don’t get dust/chips between the “T” and fence rail. Also the “T” face has a bit of HDPE tape. That will eventually fail and you will need to replace it. I replace the tape on mine with 0.031” UHMWPE from Woodriver every 6 months or so.

I use Forest Woodworker II blades and have an Avanti I use for sketchy wood :-)

I also upgraded the pulley and belt – not sure if that was actually worth the money though.

It will bog down in really thick or wet wood so you might have to make a double pass. No problem running an 8” Freud dado at 3/4” in Oak.

Good luck – It will give you years of good service

-- Bill - Rochester MI

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CLS89

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#4 posted 10-01-2018 08:37 PM

I appreciate all the replies.

Mobile Base – I will search the second-hand sites for the herc-u-lift. It appears they no longer sell that model anymore. I will also investigate the wood river mobile base. What are your thoughts on the Shop Fox D2057A for this saw? I have some amazon credit, so I can probably get it for $30-40.

Motor HP – That makes sense. At a 120v I can see how the HP is probably closer to 1HP.
Dado Insert – I’ve searched everywhere for the dado insert that goes with this saw. Unless I get lucky and come across a used one, I have no choice but to make one. I’ve watch a couple of a videos and it appears to be simple enough.

Fence – I’ll be sure to read up on the OEM fence. I agree no problems so far. I’ve also heard good things about the Delta T2 as being a reliable replacement for 113 Series Craftsman Table Saws. One guy mentioned replacing his OEM fence with a Vega, not sure how this compares to the Delta T2 fence.

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Tedstor

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#5 posted 10-02-2018 05:00 PM

The Vega fence can be installed on a 113 using the existing bolt hole configuration. The T2 requires drilling new holes in the fence rails and/or saw table.
I have the T2 on my 113/315 saw. It was a pain in the balls to install. The good news is that once installed, it works wonderfully…...and only needs to be installed once.

All else being equal, I’d opt for the Vega. But since I got the T2 for $149 shipped…...that made the installation headaches worthwhile.

Nothing wrong with the exacti-rip fence on your saw. . Its the fence system on the older 113 saws that were utter garbage.

Oh….and look into a new miter guage or miter sled. The miter guage that comes with that saw is mediocre at best. In fairness, thats pretty much true of any miter guage that comes with any brand saw. Nonetheless, get a new miter guage for christmas.

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