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Forum topic by tommyd posted 08-10-2011 07:39 AM 941 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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08-10-2011 07:39 AM

I am trying to make a kitchen table for a customer. I have a 1” thick piece pf pine which contains some tight fitted knots. ? is what do I use to fill in any holes or voids in the wood before applying finish ( grain filler sanding sealer ect?) I will be finishing with a high gloss white paint. Also do I need to put any finish on top of the paint like lacquer or varnish or poly?

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#1 posted 08-10-2011 09:55 AM

Since you’re painting it, it won’t matter all that much what you use as filler. You could fill with epoxy, bondo, wood filler, etc. You’ll definitely want to use a primer before painting, but I’m not sure about a final clear coat…I suppose it’d add another layer of protection. Just be sure it’s something that’s compatible over the paint you use.

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#2 posted 08-10-2011 11:24 PM

Some types of pine are notorious for bleeding thru paint unless you seal with a shellac sealer first…. they make some shellac sealers just for this exact purpose!!! It really depends on the type of pine or even the time of year that some pine is cut. I’ve never painted over the knots with enamel like cr1 said but it seams like that would work…. besides you need to paint this table with ENAMEL to begin with because it “wears” better than other types of paint. Especially high gloss enamel!!!!

Kilz makes a really good primers for sealing over knots also but it’s very expensive!!! Good Luck!!

Edit: If you use several coats of a good enamel paint then there is no need to apply anything else on top of that!!!!!

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#3 posted 08-11-2011 12:48 AM

You should seal the knots with some type of sealer if they are big ones because they might bleed through a light finish.If you have holes or voids that would show when top coated, you can fill them with Durham’s water putty and then block sand them to be flush with the surface, then prime and paint the pine. If it is oil based top coat, you would not really need any clear sealer unless you want to protect against wear through the paint with use. Clear poly would be a good choice for a clear finish. Make sure the white paint had dried long enough so the poly does not wrinkle it.

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