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JamieH

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08-10-2011 03:36 AM

Topic tags/keywords: oak terrible needs work practice

Ehh….not too stoked on these. I have made had a few attempts using my veritas dovetail sawguide system on some yellow pine. Results were not good. Directions not good enough for a newbie like me I guess. I dunno. So I tried again tonight on some red oak pieces I got from a friend. I used the jig for the tails, then used the tails to scribe the pins and free hand sawed the pins ( I hope I am using the right terminology). My sawing and chisel work leaves much to be desired. I think a cutting marking gauge would help me be more decisive on my cuts and where to stop/start, etc. A better saw might help too. Well, it’s a start I guess.



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acducey

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#1 posted 08-10-2011 04:20 AM

They look lots better than my first practice attempts. Keep at it and you’ll be making furniture grade joints in no time.

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#2 posted 08-10-2011 04:45 AM

oh yes i agree with the other guys here…those are great for first time cuts…your on the right trail, just do as suggested..practice makes perfect…

-- GRIZZMAN ...[''''']

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David Kirtley

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#3 posted 08-10-2011 05:05 AM

Nothing to be ashamed of. My first ones wouldn’t even hold together. :)

Mark with a knife and not a pencil. Don’t worry about trying to saw so close to the line. Stay away and trim down with a chisel.

The more practice you get, the closer you get to the line and less you trim off until one day, you forget to trim off and it fits.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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#4 posted 08-10-2011 08:55 AM

These are not really that bad for a first go. I have tried handcut dovetails a few times and struggled too.
I agree with David Kirtley cut a good milimetre from the line, also it can be handy to place a small mirror on the reverse side of the board to keep your eye on the straightness of the cut from both sides.

I have seen a demonstration by David Barron where he very quickly marks and cuts dovetails using a marking knife and his specially made alignment board. Check out his website http://www.davidbarronfurniture.co.uk/david_barron_tools.htm

Also there has been good articles on dovetails in the UK magazine Furniture and Cabinetmaker you can read some on the website http://www.woodworkersinstitute.com/page.asp?p=2

Good luck and practice makes perfect.

Ollie

-- Ollie, UK.

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lew

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#5 posted 08-10-2011 11:28 PM

Wish my first one were that good- or the third one for that matter.

Can’t really add anything to the already great suggestions, except maybe to make sure your chisels are really sharp.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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#6 posted 08-10-2011 11:38 PM

they don’t look too bad for starters…. practice practice practice will take you much further than a better saw and a marking gauge (although those are good to have too)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#7 posted 08-11-2011 12:12 AM

i agree with the rest – not too bad. as in, you could glue those up with epoxy and probably be ok :-) I have to work on mine too, which is why I just built a marking gauge..

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#8 posted 08-11-2011 02:30 AM

Your first on dovetail is normal and nothing is wrong with your allignment. The error was only caused by the adjustment of sawline with reference to markedline. I mean you should cut appropriately where you have to give a little oversize to make it tight. Cut the tails exactly on the marked line, then the pins should be cut offline depending on the oversize fitting either to the left or to the right from the marked line.
Keep practising.

-- Bert

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#9 posted 08-11-2011 02:49 AM

Nice dovetails.

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#10 posted 08-11-2011 03:35 AM

I suppose the old saying about practice makes perfect, applies, but I gave up practising when I bought my Incra LS-25.
Yours look good for the first time out. Much better than I can do that’s for sure.

-- Life is good.

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JamieH

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#11 posted 08-11-2011 04:01 PM

Thanks for the encouragement and information, guys. Time to start practicing some more!

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#12 posted 08-11-2011 04:37 PM

They look pretty good to me! That’s a difficult wood to learn on. My hat’s off to you.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#13 posted 08-11-2011 04:44 PM

hand-cut dovetails are allot like songwriting. You have to get the first hundred bad ones out of the way before the good ones come along. Keep it up, looks good!

-- StevieP ~ Micheal Tompkins - you were not here on earth long but left a giant mark on us. RIP Brother

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#14 posted 08-11-2011 08:18 PM

Thats not a bad first attemt. The best teacher in making “the tails” is Rob cosman. He know what he is doing and even i have made a lot of them i learned some new things from him.

-- Boatbuilder&blacksmith

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#15 posted 08-11-2011 09:00 PM

That’s no worse than my first ones. Most people make mistakes on dovetails the first time and it’s no big deal. There not off that far. So you know what you gotta do? You gotta just pick up that dovetail saw and practice some more until you can do them to your satisfaction and then you will have acquired a worthwhile skill that will be very valuable for your woodworking.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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