We have 2 cabinets that I would like to retrofit with slide-out trays or very shallow drawers. The thought is to put one tray about where the adjustable shelf is and the second tray just above the lower hinges.
I think we will gain usable space because the upper tray will be full depth even though I will lose some overall height. The cabinet is 23 7/16" from the back wall to the front of the face frame. Please provide a link to the slides you would use and what was the rationale for your choice. I am not concerned about price. Thank you!
Oh, that's easy.
Blum brand. Blumotion bottom mount. Blum hands-down makes the best slides. They're pricey, but I've never had one fail, and price isn't a concern for you.
Why:
-As I said above, they are very good quality.
-They're bottom mount, so they can maximize the width of your roll-out, as opposed to side mount slides, where you'd lose a 1" of width
-They've got the soft close. This is nice, because of your drawer slams, it can really rattle the contents, and I've even had glass bowls crack from smashing against each other when being closed too rapidly.
-They are fully adjustable both directions
-The drawer can be easily detached with the the squeeze of the to latches. Re-installed by dropping the drawer onto the slides and pushing it back in. Done.
Morning Art. I've got the "el cheapos" in my cabinets. They came with the cabs. That was back in the late 80's early 90s. Still work well, but if I was to do it again I'd go with PPK on this.
Personally I'd change those 2 cabinet to full drawer units. My last kitchen every cabinet possible was a drawer unit. Both I and the wife love it. Don't have to open a doors to get to a pull out shelf. After all in my view a pullout shelf is just a drawer behind a door.
I know, doesn't answer you question. The others guys already did.
Personally I d change those 2 cabinet to full drawer units. My last kitchen every cabinet possible was a drawer unit. Both I and the wife love it. Don t have to open a doors to get to a pull out shelf. After all in my view a pullout shelf is just a drawer behind a door.
I know, doesn t answer you question. The others guys already did.
It would be tough to convert them to drawers, but I agree with the thought - we had primarily drawers in our kitchen in the house we built & it was nice - easy to access stuff in the back, don't have to worry about things falling out, etc. Drawers are the way to go.
Looks like Steve has summited an efficient workable plan you will lose very little if any usable space. I would use the full extension drawer slides where every thing is easy accessible.
Personally I d change those 2 cabinet to full drawer units. My last kitchen every cabinet possible was a drawer unit. Both I and the wife love it. Don t have to open a doors to get to a pull out shelf. After all in my view a pullout shelf is just a drawer behind a door.
I know, doesn t answer you question. The others guys already did.
- AlaskaGuy
It would be tough to convert them to drawers, but I agree with the thought - we had primarily drawers in our kitchen in the house we built & it was nice - easy to access stuff in the back, don t have to worry about things falling out, etc. Drawers are the way to go.
It work be more work and more material but I don't know why it would but "tough" especially since it looks like the cabinets are Red Oak with a clear finish.
I have made sliding shelves for my PC tower, the PC keybord tray, the water purification system, and the pantry.
In all those cases I used either Accuride or KV full extension slides.
It sure is better than a static shelf where you can't reach what's on the back.
I would just use whatever is on the rest of your kitchen drawers.
I've used blum soft close, and they're fine.
I've used accuride and centerline ball bearing slides, and they're fine.
What I don't like is having one drawer ball bearing, and a nearby drawer soft close. Then the soft close ones seem annoying. Either will offer a 75-100# version that will support some pots and pans just fine.
I have a similar island with pull out drawers. The cabinet guy simply blocked out from the sides of the cabinet to mount the slides. This way the drawer doesn't interfere with the hinges. He opted to sacrifice a little width, and keep the height. Your solution to build the drawer above the lower hinges will work fine too. You'll sacrifice a little height to keep the width. And hey-- if you leave a couple inches under the bottom drawer, it might be a nice place to store baking trays and cookie trays.
Just for reference, the Blum slide that PPK posted the Amazon link for is almost $10 cheaper from Woodworker Express. I buy all of my Blum and Grass hardware from them.
Our lower cabinet shelves are pull out, very similar to what Steve showed (factory option).
I'd second any mention of the Blum soft close slides, great product. For mounting you may be able to incorporate the shelf holes into your design so the slide outs can be adjusted.
This is what I use, strong, easy to install, and you say price is not a consideration, but you can't beat the price of 10 pairs for $58.00. Available in any size you need.
If it goes to a true 90º corner, then drawers then drawers are a good use of space. Otherwise you have to have an articulated door and notched lazy susan trays, and it gets pretty cramped inside. If it has a 45º section wide enough for a door, then a lazy susan works well.
Thanks for all the replies. I ordered the Blums from woodworkerexpress.com. They were way cheaper than Amazon and a couple dollars less than cabinetparts.com.
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