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Forum topic by Alexl posted 09-17-2018 07:59 PM 270 views 0 times favorited 7 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Alexl

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09-17-2018 07:59 PM

Looking at the 25-210H and the JJP-12. Similar in price, look identical other than the helical head vs straight knife. The helical head jet (JJP-12HH) is out as it is nearly the same price as a straight-knife hammer A3-31.

If these are indeed the same machines, i will go for the Rikon with helical head. However, if there is a significant quality control difference between Rikon and jet, i will go with the jet straight knife. Both carry 5 year warrantys


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#1 posted 09-17-2018 10:17 PM

I can only speak to the Jet as i purchased it about 6 months ago. I have had no issues with the fence (just check it every day that you use it for square) and only had to adjust it once. Have not used the planer function once as i purchased it to joint 12” wide stock which it does flawlessly. Setup and getting the tables coplaner took 2 hours which is pretty consistent if you look at other peoples comments. That was the only frustrating part. Since that it has been smooth sailing.

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#2 posted 09-17-2018 10:35 PM

I have the Jet JJP-12HH and it is definitely not the same machine as the Rikon, although the designs are similar. I would not trade my Jet for a Hammer A3-31 without spiral segmented knives regardless of cost. That is how much I value the spiral cutter. Having used both types, I would not buy another planer of any brand with straight knives.

I have been using my Jet for a couple of years now and I haven’t adjusted anything.

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Alexl

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#3 posted 09-18-2018 01:47 AM

Sounds like two positive reviews for the jet. Thank you for the input!

As far as the spiral cutter head, would love one. However, the price difference in the machines do not justify it for me. IT is cheaper to upgrade the straight knife to a shelix Head later than to buy the helical head jet.

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#4 posted 09-18-2018 02:17 AM

I have the jet as well (3 years) and run rough cut oak through the jointer and planer. It laughs at my white oak. Only time I had to turn a cutter was from a staple in a pine board, duh.

Change over is really easy and the euro gard is great.

-- I always suspected many gun nuts were afraid of something, just never thought popcorn was on the list.

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#5 posted 09-18-2018 02:32 PM

I was in the same boat a few years back. Like previous responses, you’ll love the helical head on the Jet. What steered me to the Jet was more cutter heads, better overall quality, less complaints / more positive reviews on the Jet, and it was in my budget. I wanted the A3-31 (A3-41 was a dream) but after all the accessories, would have exceeded my funds at the time. Hammer/Felder in Dallas never returned my calls, emails, or was in the office when I stopped by while i was in town, so my money went to Jet. It’s definitely quieter than my old Dewalt and a friend’s straight knife 8” jointer. Cut quality is good (walnut, ash, white and red oak, and thermally modified ash goes through it regularly. It’ll laugh at any pine, birch, etc.)

Things I learned:
Get some coffee, a long precision straight edge, feeler gauges, and curse words ready for the setup. Once complete, it has held its settings over two moves for me. (garage shop). I do not like the fence. I still check it every use because it ‘seems like’ it wouldn’t hold its setting but it does. That’s the only area that it seems like Jet cheaped out on.

Have a good dust collector or put it close to the one you have. It sucks when there is not enough suction to clear the chips. Don’t even think of running it without it (even to test, don’t ask how I know).

Those cutters have stayed sharp for a long while. I have receipts for 2600 bf of the above wood, pallet wood (use magnets to check for metal), free construction 2 by material, and I have not turned them yet.

Changeover is ok. I use both functions. The planer can take 1/16 passes max on mine, full width with black walnut, which I did not check up front. I do not get any snipe so far. The jointer you can hog off a lot (a hair past 1/8).

People will argue but I have jointed boards up to 12ft 8/4 12” wide with carefully placed roller stands. I wish Jet made table extensions…

If you work with any wood that is curly / burl or concerned about noise, consider the helical head.

A DRO is highly suggested no matter what you get…

Hope this helps.

P.S. Has any Jet owners tried to retrofit the planer outfeed table from the Rikon onto the Jet?

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Alexl

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#6 posted 09-18-2018 08:27 PM

Thanks for all of the input everyone! As luck would have it, i may have found a craigslist find just in time (powermatic 60 with jet planer package). If that falls through, it looks like i will order the Jet.

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#7 posted 09-18-2018 10:11 PM

The plot thickens.. just when i think i have made my decision! I received a quote from Felder for an A3-31 with silentpower cutter block for just over $4000 before freight. basically the same price as the jet with helical head! For those looking at these machines, be advised that Hammer may be within a stone throw of the jet!

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