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Forum topic by Arlin Eastman posted 08-01-2011 04:54 AM 1153 views 0 times favorited 12 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Arlin Eastman

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08-01-2011 04:54 AM

Today I bought a small and nice little bailey #3, however, it is missing the blade and has a little rust.
Was $15 to much to spend for it? Also when do you think it was make?

So I need some help in cleaning it up.
Thanks
Arlin

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.


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WayneC

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#1 posted 08-01-2011 05:15 AM

I can be restored. If there is a Harbor Freight near by, get some evapo rust.

I would guess the 50s or later based on the frog. Are there any patent dates anywhere? Is the blade adjustment knob brass or plastic?

You will need blade, chipbreaker and a lever cap. They can be found on ebay or from a parts plane.

I would normally not spend $15 unless the plane was complete.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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docholladay

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#2 posted 08-01-2011 05:34 AM

As Wayne has mentioned, you need a blade, chip breaker and a lever cap. Go to www.stanleytoolparts.com for new parts. If you prefer to find some used parts from a vintage plane, I suggest seeing if you can find a broken one that has the parts you need. I have several number 3 sized planes. That is my favorite size. It just seems to fit my hand. Also, it isn’t extremely heavy. In addition for high quality blades and chipbreakers, you can look at Lee Valley, Ron Hock, Pinnacle and Clifton all make high quality blades.

Doc

-- Hey, woodworking ain't brain surgery. Just do something and keep trying till you get it. Doc

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#3 posted 08-01-2011 05:52 AM

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coloradoclimber

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#4 posted 08-01-2011 05:56 AM

hmm, $15 for a plane in that bad of condition missing blade, chip breaker, and lever cap. My opinion is you paid too much.

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Arlin Eastman

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#5 posted 08-01-2011 06:02 AM

Well I guess I well send it back when it comes in. The guy said it was ONLY missing the Blade.
Thanks for the help
Arlin

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.

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WayneC

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#6 posted 08-01-2011 06:07 AM

You would have to put a lot of work into it for it to work good again. Also, I would recommend pre-WW2 planes. It is hard to be sure from the photo, but this looks post WW2.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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Arch_E

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#7 posted 08-02-2011 02:47 PM

Hello Arlin,

Yep, that one going to take a lot of work, plus lever cap, cap iron, and blade to restore. OTOH, you might just harvest the handles, refinish them, and then sell them for $15. It’s a possibility.

Do be careful on buying what you can’t inspect before purchasing!! There’s just too many variables.

Archie

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jayman7

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#8 posted 08-02-2011 02:51 PM

Sorry to say that I think it’s too much for a plane in that condition without a blade and with that kind of “cheaper” type of frog.

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Bertha

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#9 posted 08-02-2011 02:57 PM

Is that a bakelite depth knob? If the seller neglected to mention that it’s missing a lever cap, then he either is very unfamiliar with planes or he’s up to no good. I’d keep it if it were just the chipbreaker/iron missing but a #3 lever cap, chipbreaker, and iron are probably going to cost more than a complete plane. The handles alone are definitely worth $15 to me, though.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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CharlieM1958

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#10 posted 08-02-2011 03:15 PM

I have to concur with the others. If you keep your eyes open, you can pick up an older and better #3, complete and in decent shape for $25.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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blackcherry

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#11 posted 08-02-2011 04:02 PM

The adjustment style knob which appears to be the neoprene rubber tell me this is a WWll style plane. This also mean that the body has a extra heavy casting. This should turn out to be a great user plane, I personally have a few in various size and are some of my go to planes….Enjoy your new plane…BC

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Arlin Eastman

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#12 posted 08-05-2011 03:48 AM

Greetings Everyone
I just reveived the plane today and the rust is just very minor surface rust.
Blackcherry you are right it is a plastic like knob by the tote. Talking of totes there are no nicks or scratches or anything wrong with them just a little worn and they look wonderful. I do not know if I should refinish them or not. I just cleaned it us some with a brass brush in bed and under the rear tote the letter U is there. There is no dates on the front except Made in USA.
A friend of mine is sending me his #3 for parts becouse the sole has a crack he said. So I should have a great plane in the future.
Arlin

PS It looked like the totes were painted black at one time, however, it has so little left to tell. The wood grain is awesome.

-- It is always the right time, to do the right thing.

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