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jaysone

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09-03-2018 04:37 AM

Topic tags/keywords: delta table saw delta 36-5100 advice question bad motor

I’ve been searching forever for a table saw and have come across something that might be a great find.. or trouble. I’m hoping everyone will chime in with their opinion about this purchase.

I found a Delta 36-5100 for only $250! The guy said it does not come with rails and that it needs a new solenoid. I asked him if the saw would even start and he said yes, but has to kick-start it by rotating the blade with a piece of scrap wood. I also asked if the wings were okay as they don’t look level in the pics. He replied that they are just not tightened down.

Let’s start talking about if this could be a good buy. There’s not much info/reviews out there for these 5100s to go off of. It also looks like motor replacement parts can get expensive quick. I’ll be taking a look in person on Wednesday. Thank you everyone for lending me your knowledge!


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#1 posted 09-03-2018 05:09 AM

Figure on another ~$200 or so for a new fence. As for the starting problem.. It could be as simple as a loose wire, or more likely, a blown start capacitor – cost to fix anywhere from free to maybe $15

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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#2 posted 09-03-2018 06:10 AM

Hmm, don’t those have a proprietary motor? I would probably pass at that price. What makes this one so much more expensive than the $600 Lowes version?

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#3 posted 09-03-2018 11:47 AM



Figure on another ~$200 or so for a new fence. As for the starting problem.. It could be as simple as a loose wire, or more likely, a blown start capacitor – cost to fix anywhere from free to maybe $15

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

I accept that a nice chunk of change will be needed for a new fence. I would hope you’re right about the starting issue. This is basically a new saw so maybe I can contact Delta about any issues?

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#4 posted 09-03-2018 12:04 PM



Hmm, don t those have a proprietary motor? I would probably pass at that price. What makes this one so much more expensive than the $600 Lowes version?

- Woodknack

Solid cast iron wings and a bigger motor. The fence rail may also have been one piece vs two piece.

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WhyMe

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#5 posted 09-03-2018 02:14 PM

You can get the Delta T3 rail and fence for $219 from Home Depot. Motor capacitor, if that’s the problem about $10. So the motor is the crap shoot. Might be worth the risk if you can get it for $200. The wings are also held up by the rails.

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#6 posted 09-03-2018 02:16 PM

I’m not up on values. So, I can’t tell you if it is a good buy. But Amazon and Home Depot both list that model at over $1,000 with a fence. I have a similar older version of that saw in that it has the solid CI wings and I love it. The wings can likely be adjusted into alignment and once you put a fence on it , the rails will help hold them. I would find the saw very tempting. As MrUnix said, the motor is probably an easy fix. Too bad it doesn’t include a fence and a good one will be a bit pricey. Maybe you can negotiate the price down. Unless it has some shortcomings that I’m not aware of, and based on experience with my similar Delta, I think it would be a good saw that would provide good service for years to come.

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jaysone

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#7 posted 09-05-2018 05:58 PM

Well we settled on $220 so I grabbed the saw this morning. Super pumped about it! The picture used in the posting was obviously a bit old cause there’s a little more rust. So.. first things first, how do I go about cleaning this bad boy up?? Maybe even steps beyond the rust. Do I need to do any lubricating?

Secondly, and most importantly, the starting issue. I plugged it in (wired for 120) and turned it on. It just makes a hum noise but the blade barely rotates. I can give the blade a push with a scrap piece of wood and then the motor is able to get up to full speed. Boy is it smooth! Head and shoulders above my no-name portable ts. Where do I start with diagnostics on the starting? I’m fairly handy, but my experience is mainly with small engines such as lawn mowers, tillers, etc.

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TheFridge

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#8 posted 09-05-2018 07:10 PM

id change the capacitors for the motor issue. If still unresolved you’ll have to crack the motor and check the centrifugal switch.

Put a wire wheel in a drill. Clean in with MS or a solvent. Wax of spray whatever you want after that.

I wouldn’t worry too much about lubricants. I use wax nowadays on everything but that’s me. Dry lube sometimes.

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#9 posted 09-05-2018 07:14 PM

Open up the plastic motor housing and remove the capacitor and test it. There are plenty of YouTube videos showing how to test. If bad get a replacement that is the same voltage and Uf. Make sure to take a good picture so you know how to hook the cap back up. There was one person that posted a starting problem with the 36-725 and when he opened up the motor housing a wire had come loose from the cap and was hanging. He figured out where it plugged too and the motor was up and running. You might get lucky.

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TheFridge

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#10 posted 09-05-2018 07:20 PM

Ditto. Now that he brings that up it’s happened to me before as well. Good starting point.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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jaysone

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#11 posted 09-05-2018 08:10 PM

@TheFridge and @WhyMe Thank you for the replies. I did a little searching on YouTube as you suggested and found a nicely detailed video here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M-j6PhthXJY

I just wanted to post it in case it can help anyone in the future.

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#12 posted 09-06-2018 01:06 AM

Well I may not have the easy out on this one. The capacitor looks brand new.

I’ll have to put a meter on it to be sure. Also, the gray cabinet has all four sides welded to the corner tubes. Thanks for the solid construction Delta, but this is going to be a pain in the @$$ to do any work on the motor.

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#13 posted 09-06-2018 01:14 AM

Capacitors can and frequently do fail without any outward indication – just because it ‘looks’ fine, doesn’t mean it is. Fortunately, you can easily test them with a cheap meter set in resistance mode – even one of those free HF meters you can get with a coupon every other month.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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jaysone

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#14 posted 09-06-2018 02:05 AM



Capacitors can and frequently do fail without any outward indication – just because it looks fine, doesn t mean it is. Fortunately, you can easily test them with a cheap meter set in resistance mode – even one of those free HF meters you can get with a coupon every other month.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

I tested it while disconnected from the motor wires. Reading was .784 and very gradually counted up .001 at a time. Not really sure if that’s good or bad.

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lumbering_on

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#15 posted 09-06-2018 03:32 AM

I have the 36-725, and it’s a solid unit. The only issue I have with it is that it’s a pain to make a zero clearance insert for it.

Sorry that I can’t help with the motor, as mine has never been an issue. However, you would need the specs on the capacitor to determine what’s going on with it. A capacitor will charge very quickly to 63.2%,. but then slows very quickly, and in theory, it never reaches 100%.

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