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Holbs

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08-12-2018 09:40 PM

I am “almost” to the point of no return in my 12’x6’ lean-too shed project. I can still edit framing as I have not yet put plywood sliding up. Which is good thing. This weekend, found out my county does not require a permit…but my city does. So will put project on hold til talk to the city folk. Which works out because am now torn between putting polycarbonate (plastic?) corrugated clear 4×8’ roofing panels instead of asphalt tiles (mainly, for lighting)...or putting 2 small shed windows in. Hmm…. anyone use those plastic clear panels? Does it turn the shed into an easy bake oven?
Or I could even slap up a couple of those solar powered shed lights.
What other things should I consider before it’s too late?
I went with 12’x6’ shed mostly for the storage of lumber, with garden tools sprinkled in. No need for electric runs to shed or plumbing.

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"


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FirehouseWoodworking

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#1 posted 08-13-2018 02:53 AM

Being as how you are in Reno, NV, I would say that the clear panels will make the shed untenable in the heat of summer, and then some.

I think that insulating the shed, including the ceiling, will be important to be able to use the shed year-round. You might want to consider a small through-the-wall air conditioner as well. I’m not sure what the winters are like there, so you may be able to by with a portable heater given the insulation.

You can’t go wrong with an end-wall and a side-wall window, both for light and for cross ventilation on temperate days.

Good luck!

Cheers!

-- Dave; Lansing, Kansas

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BurlyBob

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#2 posted 08-13-2018 03:16 AM

How about using that clear corrugated on the top of the side walls, say maybe 12”- 16”. It would give you the light you want, but not so much heat.

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onoitsmatt

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#3 posted 08-13-2018 03:17 AM

I am in Phoenix and just built a 10×6’ shed in February this year. Feel free to PM me if you want any info or pics on how I did mine. I’d definitely skip the plastic panels. Mine’s been great all summer (both temperature wise and has held up perfectly through several severe monsoons this summer).

-- Matt - Phoenix, AZ

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woodbutcherbynight

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#4 posted 08-13-2018 03:23 AM

Skip the clear panels!!

Run a light and a outlet at the very least. You will go in there one night and thank me when you turn the light on rather than have to get a flashlight.

LOL

-- Live to tell the stories, they sound better that way.

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msinc

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#5 posted 08-13-2018 07:57 AM

A light and outlet is not a bad idea, but when you run power to something it is now subject to an electrical inspection, at least if you want it legal. Many areas require a licensed electrician to do the work, which equals more money. As far as insulation, air conditioning and heat…......in a shed to store lumber?.......I guess if your wife kicks you out a lot that might be handy.
If the sun is brutal where you live I would suggest a metal roof over shingles unless the roof has to match something else. I would also be careful about using different materials to sheath the thing. Clear panels around the top seems like a good idea too, until you try to get it to stop leaking. If this really is just a shed to store lumber you don’t need heat and air, you don’t need windows and special vents and you don’t need power, just close it in and use it.

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Holbs

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#6 posted 08-14-2018 01:26 AM

MSINC…A friend of mine (isn’t that always the case?) just runs outdoor electrical cord into his shed for lighting. That is also an option.
I considered extending an outdoor porch light into shed..but as you state, that would mean permit/inspection.
I do wondier if those outdoor shed solar light arrays work “as is” without needed electrical inspection

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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Knockonit

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#7 posted 08-14-2018 02:14 AM

most cities allow a so called portable storage facility, under 200 sq. ft to be built without permit issuance.

now if power is being added, that might be another issue, maybe a part time cord till one passes the city muster .

good luck, looking good
Rj in Az.

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uptoolateman

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#8 posted 08-14-2018 03:11 AM

I live in an are that doesn’t require a permit for under 200 sq ft and 10 ft average roof height, but I found out that at 120sq ft and larger I had to abide by the full setbacks of my property, which is 15 ft from back property line. I built my shed at 112 sq ft and was only required to set it 3 ft from the back line but I was still stuck with 10 ft on the side because it was a street setback. 2 days after the shed went up the county assessor left a note on my door. Turns out it wasnt because of the shed but because i had pulled a plumbing permit the end of last year. He was quick to note the shed, my new fence, the newish windows and the new exterior lights. He kept asking about my recent interior remodel, which I haven’t done yet.

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Holbs

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#9 posted 08-14-2018 03:22 AM

TooLate… what did the note say? He noted shed, fence, windows, lights… as in, taxes going up a tad?

-- The Carpenter Bee is derived from the Ancient Greek word wood-cutter "xylokopos/ξυλοκὀπος"

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uptoolateman

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#10 posted 08-14-2018 03:58 AM

No left his card on the blue tag and noted I needed to call hlm.back, when i called him to see what was up he noted everything he saw while putting the blue tag on the door. Since I pulled a permit for a repipe of the house he assumed I had done a kitchen and bath remodel. I was just tired of low water pressure, rust and none of the shut off valves functioning from 50 year old galvanized. I was afraid it was something else when I saw the tag. My friend had started to put up a shed several years ago, he got 2 walls up went to the hardware store and when he returned the county had put a tag on his door. They forced him to move the shed 3 more feet back from the property line because it was a street setback.

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uptoolateman

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#11 posted 08-14-2018 03:59 AM

I’m guessing my taxes will go up.

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msinc

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#12 posted 08-14-2018 01:03 PM

Yeah, you gotta meet the setbacks if any. There isn’t really anything they can say about a “temporary” outdoor extension cord. One other thing you can do electrical wise and a lot of folks do it is get the shed done and wait a little while. Then go ahead and run the line yourself. Just make sure it is done to NEC codes. The biggest thing to understand about doing your own electric is that if it doesn’t meet all the applicable codes and you have a fire, even if what you did had nothing to do with it there is a good chance the insurance company will deny the claim if they find any code violations.

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clin

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#13 posted 08-14-2018 03:06 PM

I also recommend against anything other than a fully insulated roof. As for light, it depends on what you’re using the shed for. It’s not very large. If it’s just for storage, I wouldn’t do anything. The door will let enough light in you can find stuff. At night, that’s what flashlights are for.

I put a small window in the end of my shed. I used one designed for a bathroom. The type you might find high up on a wall. I chose it because it is too small for and adult to climb through and the glass is frosted so no one can look inside.

Another concern I have about a permit is whether it is too close to your house. It appears to be built right up to something. Where I live, sheds have to be some distance from a house or other structure.

-- Clin

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bondogaposis

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#14 posted 08-14-2018 03:24 PM

You are going to need either a window or an electric light. Shed s can be very dark with out some sort of light source.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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uptoolateman

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#15 posted 08-14-2018 09:37 PM

I put one of those solar security motion lights on the front of my shed, pretty impressed by how bright it is, I was thinking about mounting one inside the shed with the lights adjusted kind of upward and the sensor pointed towards the door. Of coarse I would mount the solar panel outside for you wise guys out there.

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