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Forum topic by GR8HUNTER posted 08-10-2018 09:51 PM 669 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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GR8HUNTER

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08-10-2018 09:51 PM

Topic tags/keywords: walker turner table saw

today I was running my walker turner table saw and smoke started to pour out of it upon farther inspection of the old motor DRIVER LINE it is if fact the motor smoking real bad
so my question is
1-rebuild ?
2-how much money ?
3- will this one work ?

THANKS ALL :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN


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lew

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#1 posted 08-10-2018 10:09 PM

That’s a good price for the motor. Maybe just get it for future use.

Not sure how it compares to the one you have.

-- Lew- Time traveler. Purveyor of the Universe's finest custom rolling pins.

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MrUnix

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#2 posted 08-10-2018 10:09 PM

Depends on why it was smoking. What did the smoke smell like (wood burning, or electrical insulation melting)? Could have been almost anything from a stuck wood chip to toasted windings – but you won’t know until you open it up and take a look.

Cheers,
Brad

-- Brad in FL - In Dog I trust... everything else is questionable

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JayT

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#3 posted 08-10-2018 10:11 PM

Try a nicotine patch. :-)

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GR8HUNTER

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#4 posted 08-10-2018 10:35 PM


That s a good price for the motor. Maybe just get it for future use.

Not sure how it compares to the one you have.

- lew


so you think that motor will work ?


Depends on why it was smoking. What did the smoke smell like (wood burning, or electrical insulation melting)? Could have been almost anything from a stuck wood chip to toasted windings – but you won t know until you open it up and take a look.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix


I dont really know as I cannot smell that good :<((


Try a nicotine patch. :-)

- JayT


OR THE GUM LOL :<))

maybe THIS ONE :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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runswithscissors

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#5 posted 08-10-2018 11:10 PM

When I saw that a motor rated at 3 hp could operate off 110, I had my doubts. But it appears the amps are 36 and 18. I’d never seen a 110 motor that would draw that many amps. Would require a really big breaker and heavy gauge wire.

Of course, If you have 220 (240 for nit pickers), it wouldn’t be a problem. The advantage it has over the HF motor is that it is TEFC, which is a lot better in dusty (table saw) environments.

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GR8HUNTER

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#6 posted 08-10-2018 11:47 PM

I do have 220
thanks for the info runswithscissors :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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LittleBlackDuck

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#7 posted 08-11-2018 03:23 AM

Hey GR8, I know nothing about electronics or mechanics, however, I can give you one piece of advice.

Teach the motor to read… if your cigarette packets have the same warning as ours do here in Australia, once the motor reads the messages, it will stop smoking!

-- If your first cut is too short... Take the second cut from the longer end... LBD

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rwe2156

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#8 posted 08-11-2018 01:11 PM

I’m willing to be any motor that smokes like that is burned up. Wishful thinking wood dust got caught on fire, Brad.

Yeah, something not right with that. 18A @ 220 = 5HP motor.

I would be a bit leery of a used motors. I’ve been burned (pardon the pun) in the past. I think a lot of them come off old compressors that have gone bad.

As you know a Leeson or Baldor is $$$. Grizzly sells a 3HP for $345.

Harbor Freight has motors so cheap I might give it a try (definitely buy the replacement warranty!!).

-- Everything is a prototype thats why its one of a kind!!

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GR8HUNTER

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#9 posted 08-11-2018 01:24 PM



I m willing to be any motor that smokes like that is burned up. Wishful thinking wood dust got caught on fire, Brad.

Yeah, something not right with that. 18A @ 220 = 5HP motor.

I would be a bit leery of a used motors. I ve been burned (pardon the pun) in the past. I think a lot of them come off old compressors that have gone bad.

As you know a Leeson or Baldor is $$$. Grizzly sells a 3HP for $345.

Harbor Freight has motors so cheap I might give it a try (definitely buy the replacement warranty!!).

- rwe2156


thank you rwe2156
I too think it is odd my old motor only draws 8 amps @220
and yes Lesson & Baldor are huge money might as well get another whole new saw :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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teejk02

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#10 posted 08-11-2018 03:20 PM


Depends on why it was smoking. What did the smoke smell like (wood burning, or electrical insulation melting)? Could have been almost anything from a stuck wood chip to toasted windings – but you won t know until you open it up and take a look.

Cheers,
Brad

- MrUnix

I dont really know as I cannot smell that good :<((


Hard to mistake the smell of an electrical burn. Smells a lot like roasted garlic.

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GR8HUNTER

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#11 posted 08-11-2018 03:25 PM

I’m pretty sure it is electrical not wood burning :<((

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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builtinbkyn

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#12 posted 08-11-2018 05:47 PM

Tony I’d tell you saw to quit smoking or at least not do it in the house ;P

Does it only smoke under load/cutting? Open up the cabinet and let it run to see where the smoke is coming from. Mr. Unix suggested this and IMO from reading his posts, he’s the goto guy for advice :) If it’s the motor and you like the saw, replace the motor. I was hunting around for a used jointer and saw a 3HP Baldor motor for sale in PA somewhere at a steal. I’ll have to search my browser history to see if I can find it again. I’ll let you know if I do.

-- Bill, Yo!......in Brooklyn & Steel City :)

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GR8HUNTER

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#13 posted 08-11-2018 07:54 PM

I have open this motor up and it seems the centrifugal switch is in pieces …so now to try and find one of these old guys :<(((
yes Bill your correct Brad knows his stuff :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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EarlS

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#14 posted 08-11-2018 10:04 PM

Tony – my advice is to buy a new motor, any time electrical equipment starts smoking is a bad sign. I would also go for the more reputable, new motor rather than a used one that might be worse than what you have. 220V isn’t very forgiving if something gets messed up.

-- Earl "I'm a pessamist - generally that increases the chance that things will turn out better than expected"

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GR8HUNTER

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#15 posted 08-11-2018 11:45 PM



Tony – my advice is to buy a new motor, any time electrical equipment starts smoking is a bad sign. I would also go for the more reputable, new motor rather than a used one that might be worse than what you have. 220V isn t very forgiving if something gets messed up.

- EarlS


thank you Earl … what do you think about the HF motor ?

https://www.harborfreight.com/3-hp-compressor-duty-motor-68302.html :<))

-- Tony---- Reinholds,Pa.------ REMEMBER TO ALWAYS HAVE FUN

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