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Forum topic by azor posted 08-10-2018 04:04 AM 358 views 0 times favorited 3 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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azor

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08-10-2018 04:04 AM

Topic tags/keywords: dust collector 1 hp cyclone

I have a very small shop in a 10’ x 12’ shed. Of course everything is on wheels. A number of years ago I bought a Delta 50-720 1 HP Single Stage Dust Collector for my Saw Stop table saw and a jet 6’ jointer.

Recently I noticed that the suction on the Delta seemed decreased. There was a clog in the section of hose connected to the Delta, but clearing it out did not seem to restore its initial performance. I tapped on the bag, but no improvement.

I looked into upgrading it. I found that replacing the bag that came with it with a pleated canister would improve things from a filtration standpoint. The next suggested improvement would be Cyclone setup from Oneida [Ref Woodcraft]. The Cyclone setups vary from a “trash can lid” to a “4” Super Dust Deputy Deluxe with a price range from $25 to $210.

I read an article from FWW that reviewed these methods and at the end it suggested that they mostly work with Single State DCs above 1.5 HP.

So my question is there anyone out there who has any experience using either or both of these upgrades with improvement worth the the investment on a 1 HP single stage dust collector such as I have?

Thanks, Richard

-- It isn't as easy as the demos make it seem.


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ArtMann

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#1 posted 08-10-2018 11:40 PM

Replacing the bag with a cartridge filter like those sold by Wynn Environmental will improve suction and reduce the amount of fine dust that escapes. Equipping your dust collector with a cyclone will decrease suction by a significant amount. However, it will prevent your filter from getting clogged quite so fast. My experience with the trash can separators is that they only trap the large dust particles and shavings and dramatically reduce suction. I threw mine away.

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#2 posted 08-11-2018 12:08 AM

My experience with a cyclone and a home made cyclone trash can separator mirrors the info cited by ArtMann. I believe that a significant portion of the HP from the fan gets used up accelerating the static air in the shop and the almost static air flow in the cyclone into the 4” hoses. (Inertia) I tried the can separator for pulling shavings from my Bell-Saw planer, since it was quickly filling my 2 hp Jet dust collector. The loss of suction from adding the can separator caused a lot more planer shavings to exit with the output boards. I found a Grizzly 8027 (1 HP) portable collector and replaced the lower collection bag with a flannel bed sheet that the wife stitched into a long bag with a boot lace in a top hem. Tying and clamping this onto the grizzly allows me to run about 20 – 8” by 10 ft long pine boards (sawn 5/4) down to 3/4” std thickness before emptying the bag.

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azor

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#3 posted 08-11-2018 09:24 PM

Thanks for your replies. I decided to go ahead with the WinnEnvionmental upgrade and stop there unless I find a cyclone solution that works without significant reduction in cfm. At the moment I only use the D.C. for table saw and a jointer.

-- It isn't as easy as the demos make it seem.

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