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Forum topic by NH_Hermit posted 07-19-2011 02:04 PM 1296 views 0 times favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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NH_Hermit

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07-19-2011 02:04 PM

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My wife wants to give me a lathe for my birthday (yes, I am a very lucky man), and I need some recommendations. This will be my first lathe, so I know almost nothing. I did attend two 2-day turning classes (one in Boston and one in Asheville, NC) resulting in my having some idea of what I might want.

Now the parameters: 1). It needs to be under $800. 2). I want to be able to turn 12” bowls and plates, and spindles at least 32” in length. 3). I really like the variable speed control at the touch of a knob. 4). I’d like to keep it to 110V to avoid any rewiring costs. I do have 220V in the shop but that’s taken up with a heater. 5). I’m a hobbyist and will remain so.

I’ve been watching Craig’s list but really want to buy new. I’ve been looking at the Grizzly G0462 that seems to fit the bill, but wanted to hear other options.

Thanks in advance.

-- John from Hampstead


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#1 posted 07-19-2011 02:56 PM

I’m thinking about the Delta 46-460 … I have been using one in a turning class at the local TC, and they are sweet. With the extension bed, they are under $800. Reviews are terrific on this lathe, and it has all of the features you listed. I’m guessing it will be awhile before they show up on Craigslist … they are fairly new, and I have yet to read or hear of anyone that has a problem with them.

—Gerry

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#2 posted 07-19-2011 03:04 PM

I’ve been doing a lot of research on lathes. My wife also told me i could get a lathe and set up a new shop for my birthday. Mostly because i think i’m driving her crazy since i’m not working anymore. To fit your parameters you might want to look at a Jet 1220vs with bed extension. Or a PSI one. But if you are planning on turning mostly bowls all these machines and the Grizzly will be a little light for large out of round blanks.

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#3 posted 07-19-2011 09:55 PM

OK, so the Grizzly is now off the list. All three of these look good. This is going to be a hard choice.

Thx for the input

-- John from Hampstead

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#4 posted 07-19-2011 10:13 PM

Keep in mind that the lathe is only a part of the total cost of getting into turning. Did she say you could spend $800 on the lathe plus God-only-knows how much more on tools, chucks, faceplates, sharpening, etc? Or just $800, period? :) I’ve got around $1500 in stuff other than my PM3520

That said, I’ve yet to year anyone bad-mouth the new Delta Midi. However, with a 12.5” swing you can’t realistically turn 12” bowls on it, you could only remove 1/4” from blank to finished dimension.

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#5 posted 07-19-2011 10:25 PM

Shhhh! She might hear you. I haven’t told her about the other stuff yet.

-- John from Hampstead

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#6 posted 07-19-2011 10:31 PM

Wood Nerd is right … 12” is the outside limit of what you could turn on the 46-460, so you’d have to do some rough-cutting on the bandsaw to get the blank down to a size you could mount on the lathe. You’d have the same problem with the Jet 1220vs.

I still think the Delta 46-460 is the best deal going.

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#7 posted 07-19-2011 10:34 PM

John—It is still cheaper than some bobbies women indulge in. My wife is a quilter … have you priced Bernina or Husqvarna sewing machines lately?

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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#8 posted 07-19-2011 11:06 PM

I am quite happy with mine which is about the same size as the Delta Midi but it has outboard turning as well. The headstock can be turned around or slid all the way to the opposite end to turn a larger diameter. It comes with a small extension bed piece for outboard turning. You would have to buy a bed extension to get the length you want for spindles though. I’ve seen it listed at a lot of US stores for $799 and I believe I have seen it for $739 somewhere.

http://general.ca/site_general/g_produits/lathe/25-200.html

The only thing is that they list the minimum RPM as 300 on the site, but the PDF manual you download says 400 RPM. Mine is closer to 400 minimum speed. I don’t know if that’s slow enough for you or not. I haven’t turned anything bigger than an ornament on mine yet. Just tossing the idea out there.

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#9 posted 07-20-2011 01:01 AM

I’m not gonna make you happy!!!! But 12” bowls really require a more substantial lathe (think—bearings wear and weight and out-of-balance and tool rest diameters capable of sustaining continuous pounding from a 25lb piece of wet wood (requiring a band saw to precut to precisely the 12” diameter). Smaller (mini and midi) do a marvelous job on turning spindles and, if wired variable speed, can produce really nice pieces, optimally 8” diameter or less. A 10-25lb block of unbalance wood, slinging around at the headstock af the regular setting of 450 rpms can be nuts. If you accidently left the belts on 2200 or more, you’ve have airborne missle, maybe even with the lathe (if unbolted to a base) following it.

Buy the mini or midi—but understand weight is the key, critical problem for lathes of this size. For that matter, it remains the critical problem until you buy your first half-ton lathe. Out-of-balance rotation is also problematic, but with proper preparation (bandsaw) your can address that more easily. BTW, wet wood turning is easier than dry.

If you do step up the 2-3k range new is not unrealistic. OTOH, it’s not very affordable either. That’s why I’ve bought used, after buying that first starter lathe—a 12” mini.

Blessings on having a wife who loves you so and wants such joy for you both!!! That’s a terrific testimony.

Archie

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#10 posted 07-20-2011 01:05 AM

Gerry, I think one of the reasons she’s letting me get this is because she knits, crochets, embroiders, into photography and wants to get into quilting, so there might be a bet of guilt, but I’m not going there – I’m just taking her up on the offer. And yes, she has a very nice Janome sewing machine among other toys.

-- John from Hampstead

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#11 posted 07-20-2011 03:03 AM

It’s done!!!! I got the Delta from Amazon (free shipping, no sales tax)

-- John from Hampstead

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#12 posted 07-20-2011 04:00 AM

Congrats! I’m sure that, as with all lathes, it comes with the special suction attachment for your wallet :)

-- The Wood Nerd -- http://www.workshopaholic.net

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#13 posted 07-20-2011 08:25 PM

John—I think you made a good choice. Happy Turning!

—Gerry

-- Gerry -- "I don't plan to ever really grow up ... I'm just going to learn how to act in public!"

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