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Forum topic by agallant posted 07-12-2011 08:54 PM 1496 views 1 time favorited 13 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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agallant

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07-12-2011 08:54 PM

I suck at tuning my table saw. My fence it .030 tilted away from the miter slot. I am going to assume that .030 is too much? Also I have tried to build various jigs and what not for the miter slot but it seams that no matter what I do there is some play in it that skews the results. I have never been able to figure out how to true the blade to the slot. Any advice, tips, tricks would be appreciated.

-AG


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Jim Finn

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#1 posted 07-12-2011 09:07 PM

I make my sleds to use two miter slots. BOth of the ones in my tabelsaw top. Works a lot better for me.

-- "You may have your PHD but I have my GED and my DD 214"

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#2 posted 07-12-2011 09:10 PM

I had that idea but had some issues with it. Can you post a photo of your sled?

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#3 posted 07-12-2011 09:22 PM

for starters you really should have the blade parallel with the miter slot, otherwise no sled that rides in it will ever give you any decent/safe results.

what TS do you have? if you’ll state what you have, some folks with similar saw might be able to help you set it up properly – should be aligned to ~0.005” blade to miter slot, any more and it becomes a safety hazard and will give you poor quality cuts and burns.

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#4 posted 07-12-2011 09:31 PM

Take your time when setting up. Get a good book maybe from the library.I cannot offer advice since we don’t use sleds here in Europe as we have sliding tables mostly on lour saws which I genuinely prefer.However make sure you spend a good half day or even a day no shame in that getting it cleaned out and set up.Try not to over oil or grease the trunnions etc as that attracts dust build up terribly.When you feel you have methodically done everything maybe have a friend check it over or make yourself a checklist and score off each part once done.There is nothing better than a good well tuned machine saw or otherwise.Have fun kindest regards Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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agallant

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#5 posted 07-12-2011 09:44 PM

I have a SawStop contractor saw. Lets keep this thread to tuning the saw; I don’t care about the politics of mandated safety technology or Gass.

-AG

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SCOTSMAN

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#6 posted 07-12-2011 10:04 PM

Well said AG well said brother keep it to the point. Alistair

-- excuse my typing as I have a form of parkinsons disease

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#7 posted 07-12-2011 10:06 PM

AG- Here are some videos that should help you. The last two are instuctions for this nice (but pricey) tool but will help with the concepts. This site helped me, but many here don’t like that you need to register. I kept trying to adjust my contractor saw without the trunnion and brackets being snug. Didn’t realize that’s like aligning the front end of your car when your lug nuts are loose. These helped too. Good luck. -Jack

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#8 posted 07-12-2011 10:33 PM

I’ll second that a table saw is useless for WW unless it is tuned correctly. There are tons of videos and how too’s located throughout the web. For mine (Grizzly 60691) I built a blade alignment tool out of some mitre track from Incra…and a dial I had lying around (you can find these at the borg…or online for $15 or so).

I align the blade before starting any major projects and after switching a blade out (i.e. for changing to a dado and back). About every 4-6 months, I tighten all nuts and bolts, clean the top and wax (mine is cast iron), clean the trunnions and gears, lube the gears and moveable parts, check the belt tension, check the run out on the blade (using the same alignment tool as I do for parallelism on the blade) and check the blade alignment (both to the mitre track and to the tilt detents)....all this is done wheather I have used the saw or not as it is just part of my overall maintenance schedule. As stated above – there are tons of how too’s for all of this online…or purchase a good book on tablesaws/maintenance.

I always recommend that everyone set up a schedule to do needed maintenance on their tools…..that way the tools are always ready to be used….and when ready….I mean accurate. The most problematic thing is woodworking is lack of precision….when your tools do not do their jobs correctly it is costly and very time consuming (so I believe that biting the bullet before it becomes an issue saves alot more time then it takes).

-- Woodworking.....My small slice of heaven!

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#9 posted 07-12-2011 10:41 PM

hold on to your horses, I merely asked which TS since depending on the model the alignment procedures would differ from one to the other, I could really care less what you are using personally.

that said – I have dial calipers, and dial indicators, but I always do my TS alignment simply with a combination square in the miter slot – I know – not very hight tech, but good enough to keep it dialed in.

check out thewoodwhisperer.com video section, he had a nice video about tuning a TS a couple of years ago. obviously you’ll have some differences in the part of moving your trunions since you have a contractor saw, but other than that the rest still applies.

good luck, stay safe…

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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MrWoodworker

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#10 posted 07-13-2011 08:50 PM

cr1 – say what? :)

A little majorly analytical for my blood, but you’re spot on, mate!

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#11 posted 07-19-2011 04:50 PM

I have a dial indicator from Grizzly and a digital ruler that measures up to .000

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#12 posted 07-19-2011 05:06 PM

You state the Fence is tilted from the mitre slot. How is the MS alignment with the blade? If that is okay then the fence alignment can be accomplished with a good metal ruler or a combo square.

-- Life is good.

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#13 posted 07-21-2011 01:09 AM

August,

First align your blade to the t slots and then align the fence to the blade. Not one or the other but both.

Mike

-- Mike - In Fort McMurray Alberta

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