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coloradoclimber

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07-11-2011 06:13 AM

I am in the market for a new router, either the Bosch 1617 or a PC 690. I already own both and I’m happy with both. It would be convenient to have one more and I think I would be happy with another copy of either one.

Both of my routers are quite a few years old, probably pushing 10 years. The PC says on the side “Proudly Made in America” and the Bosch says “Assembled in America”. I’m wondering where these routers are made today.

Does anyone know where these routers are made? Does anyone have a recently purchased 1617 or 690 router and can you tell me where it was made. thanks


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Steven H

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#1 posted 07-11-2011 06:34 AM

Porter Cable I believe is made in Mexico.
Bosch is either in Switzerland or China.
I could be wrong.

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mcase

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#2 posted 07-11-2011 07:12 AM

I have three year old Bosch that was “Hecho en Mexico”

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#3 posted 07-11-2011 07:18 AM

Bosch has factories all over the world, but all 3 of my routers uncluding one purchased last year were made in the usa.
their router bits are also US made.
it appears that their drills are emostly made in china or malaysia, the rest is usually germany or switzerland.

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#4 posted 07-11-2011 02:19 PM

I just bought another Bosch two weeks ago. I will check tonight regarding COO. We are talking the 1617EVS, variable speed, no? They did add an adjustment hole from the bottom and a hex wrench for turning the same adjustment knob as before, only now you can get to it from either side. Nice if the router is upside down for some reason (such as a cheap router table or jig thingy). It is a lot shiny-er than my 9 year old one.

I just love Bosch tools. Their driver and drill set, along with their jigsaw are a couple of my favorite tools to operate. Well made stuff. It is a German company so ….

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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coloradoclimber

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#5 posted 07-11-2011 03:13 PM

Steve, Yes, the 1617 EVS. I’m mostly leaning toward the 1617 EVSPK. Amazon has them for $192 with free shipping. I have an edge guide and guide bushings for the 1617 so I’m really pretty set on the Bosch, unless I find out it is made in China, then I think I’ll have to give the PC a closer look. thanks

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#6 posted 07-11-2011 03:18 PM

I think the PC’s are Made in Mexico.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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coloradoclimber

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#7 posted 07-11-2011 03:30 PM

Steve, another question, did your 1617 evs come with the template guide adapter? I’ve been reading reviews saying Bosch no longer ships the adapter with the 1617.

The “What’s in the Box” on Amazon doesn’t show the adapter being included:

EVS Motor (16176), plunge base (RA1166), fixed base (RA1161), fixed base chip shield, plunge base chip shield, 1/2-inch and 1/4-inch self-releasing collet chucks, comfortable forged 16-mm and 24-mm bit change wrenches, T-handle hex-height adjustment wrench, and rugged carrying case.

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coloradoclimber

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#8 posted 07-11-2011 03:36 PM

Hmm, just found this on the Bosch website:

Optional RA1126 Quick-Change Templet Guide Adapter (sold separately)

And

Assembled In: Motor assembled in Mexico. Bases and other items made in China.

That’s not very inspiring. I think I’ll do a little more looking at the PC.

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#9 posted 07-11-2011 03:43 PM

I bought the 1617EVSPK yesterday at Lowe’s. I saw it on Amazon for $192 with the free shipping but it was only $199 at the local store. It says “Assembled in Mexico” and the Dewalt 618PK right beside it said “Made in Mexico”. I didn’t look at tht PC because they didn’t have a plunge model for sale there.

-- Kevin, South Carolina

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SPalm

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#10 posted 07-11-2011 03:43 PM

No, I believe it did not. Again I am at work and really have only unboxed it and run it up the flag pole to make sure that it works.

I only got the standard base and no rugged carrying case. Just the wrenches, shield, and collets.

It is nice to know that they made the wrenches comfortable :) I hadn’t noticed.

Personaly I would not use the ‘Made in China’ notation as a dig at quality anymore. I have stuff that I design manufactured in China. They will, and can build to any spec we give them. When I was a kid we used to say this about Japan. Economically I wished it was built here, but then again, these guys are German. What a world we live in.

Steve

-- -- I'm no rocket surgeon

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coloradoclimber

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#11 posted 07-11-2011 03:55 PM

Steve, thanks for the info.

My desire to avoid “Made In China” is actually less about quality these days as it is about keeping money close to home. I’m not really a protectionist or closed borders kind of guy but I’m starting to believe that if we keep sending every dollar we have over seas, whether it be china or india or mexico or wherever, it’s gonna kill us. I’m just having a harder and harder time sending dollars to other countries when we have guys and gals here struggling to find a job. So I’d like to buy a good router and if I can keep someone close to home employed I’d rather do that. I heard a rumor milwaukee might still make some stuff in the US, maybe I’ll take a look at them.

thanks

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coloradoclimber

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#12 posted 07-11-2011 04:32 PM

Nope on Milwaukee, from the Milwaukee web site

“Milwaukee Electric Tool was acquired by Techtronic Industries Co. Ltd. (TTI) in 2005, ttigroup.com.

Founded in 1985, TTI is a leading marketer, manufacturer and supplier of home improvement and floor care products, employing over 20,000 people worldwide. TTI’s global brand portfolio includes Ryobi®, Milwaukee Electric Tool® and AEG® power tools, DreBo® carbide drill bits, Homelite® and Ryobi® outdoor power equipment and Royal®, Dirt Devil®, Regina® and VAX® floor care appliances.”

From another site: “In January 2005 Milwaukee Tools was sold to Techtronic Industries of Hong Kong.”

Anyhow, it’s looking more and more like you can’t buy a Made In America power tool. There you go…

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NBeener

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#13 posted 07-11-2011 04:42 PM

You buy a Made In China product, here, or any other product, they’re still huge holders of our national debt.

It may be worth buying the best product you can find, for your hard-earned $$$ ;-)

-- -- Neil

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#14 posted 07-11-2011 05:01 PM

The push knob on the template adaptor can break and I had had a hard time finding a replacement here in my province….

As far as I know, fewer and fewer power tools are made in the US and our choices are going to be much limited if we don’t consider products made outside of N.A. I believe as long as you buy from an American (or Canadian in my case) company, it doesn’t matter where the product is made because you’re still giving your business (and money) to a US business. Walmart sells mostly stuff imported from Asia but all of its employees in the US are US residents.

But then even a product that says Made in Canada may not really be made in Canada! We have (or had) funny rules that govern what’s made in Canada and what is not. 90% of something made in China could still be labelled as Made in Canada!

-- The time I enjoy wasting is not time wasted

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#15 posted 07-11-2011 05:06 PM

Well, it still just galls my as* to pay top dollar for a “high quality name brand” product I know was made with $2.00/hr virtual slave labor, in a factory powered with coal and no environmental controls; I don’t care what the quality is. Makes me more likely to buy cheap HF products. They all come from the same place anyway. I don’t see why I should fatten the pockets and reward Mr. Traitor CEO of “high quality name brand” company for exporting all our jobs to places where there is no such thing as fair trade.

-- Michael :-{| “If you tell a big enough lie and tell it frequently enough, it will be believed.” ― A H

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