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SCOTSMAN

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07-10-2011 09:27 PM

see thjis please on ebay 12 chisels for £11.95 .I don’t think anyone here could make them for that or even buy the lumber and steel.I know there not top dollar tools but really how can the do this so cheaply.I wouldn’t mind buying them taking them carefully apart and regrinding the metal to use for picks scrapers for metal working etc. Alistair

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/12PC-PROFESSIONAL-WOOD-CRAVING-CHISEL-SET-12-PC-PIECE-/270610848649?_trksid=p5197.m185&_trkparms=algo%3DSIC.OPJS%26itu%3DI%252BUA%26otn%3D10%26pmod%3D320723949878%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D1249784907085865020

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#1 posted 07-10-2011 09:43 PM

Hmmm. I would say they are Junk imports. I guess if you were going to regrind them… I would not try to carve with them. Would you have any luck at boot sales finding quality steel in old tools?

People seem to like these…. Not sure how they would compare once you added shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/Carvers-Basic-Straight-Handles-Piece/dp/B000YLK3MA/ref=wl_it_dp_o?ie=UTF8&coliid=I3JLPOQ66INDL1&colid=KFTNH7FTIMSN

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#2 posted 07-10-2011 09:47 PM

Yes but Wayne 12 for £12 pounds thats cheap thats not even two packs of cigarettes (not that I smoke) but less than a pound each you could sell the handles for that probably. Alistair

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#3 posted 07-10-2011 09:52 PM

I guess the thing to do is get a set and play around with them.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#4 posted 07-10-2011 09:52 PM

Hey there Scotty, Dont look at them wrong, they will fall apart! Good enough to see if you want to dump out the bucks for a decent set.

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#5 posted 07-10-2011 09:59 PM

I know there probably not good quality as said but that aside I still can’t fathom out how they do it .Alistair

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#6 posted 07-10-2011 10:04 PM

Alistair,
I’ve a spare set of these I can send you.
Just PM me your address.

I use them for carving workshops at the festivals
The folk mainly make love spoons

They are not a great quality though

When I lived in Africa, I’ve seen some incredible carving done with old sharpened screwdrivers

yours
jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#7 posted 07-10-2011 10:04 PM

Cheap materials and cheap labor…

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#8 posted 07-10-2011 10:08 PM

Jamie my friend thats very kind of you but I already have a few nice sets in my woodshop you’re a nice guy thanks again regards Alistair

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ellen35

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#9 posted 07-10-2011 10:26 PM

Maybe they are really only 2 inches tall…like the picture!

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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#10 posted 07-10-2011 10:30 PM

That’s it!! I couldn’t figure it out !! thats were Ellens lateral thinking came in.Alistair

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#11 posted 07-10-2011 10:30 PM

I know what you mean, Alistair. I feel the same way about some of the tools they sell a Harbor Freight. (I doubt you have them in Scotland, but you’ve probably seen them discussed on this website.) Even if it’s total junk, you wonder how they can put something together and sell it for that price, and still be making a profit.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#12 posted 07-10-2011 10:34 PM

Charlie my friend some poor devil is taking home a low pay packet that’s for sure.

NO NO It can’t continue I am going to write in to the chairman at Chinese company and demand they take at least the full £12 surely that will help.
Eh you don’t think so ok ,I am a skinflint, cheapshot,cheapskate I mean .Let’s call it £12.01 ah now I feel better.That’s if I decide to buy I don’t know maybe I should take up smoking LOL Alistair

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David Kirtley

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#13 posted 07-10-2011 10:38 PM

Scotsman:

These tools are just basic carbon steel that was drop forged on and assembly line and the handles cut with a big shaper. The price reflects that. The thing is, they are actually quite serviceable tools. We turn our nose up at the $5/set chisels at Harbor Freight because we have been told that if they are not expensive, they can’t possibly work. Guess what? They work fine. Yeah, the rough grinding probably screwed the temper. Get a torch and fix it. Takes less time than a good sharpening.

The thing is we are really spoiled and have been collectively brainwashed by marketing and planned obsolescence. We get convinced that Festool’s $300 electric screwdriver is a must have tool. We are told that we need a 10HP saw when a 2HP cuts just fine. We need to go out and buy the $200 dovetail saw when the $8 Zona saw cuts just as well.

The marketing of fishing lures is exactly the same way. Fishing lures are not designed to attract fish. They are designed to attract fishermen.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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#14 posted 07-10-2011 10:45 PM

Just like the beautiful pictures taken on a two dollar used camera and the beautiful music screached out on a violin made fro pallet wood er well maybe the camera then LOL . The lures are correct too everytime I bought a good one I lost it first time out so that’s whay I don’t fish anymore, But your so correct I am just another expensive machine sucker and I love it LOL .Actually all my machines I bought used and done them up myself I wouldn’t pay the money for any festool stuff that’s just the emperors new clothes if you know what I mean have fun pal Alistair

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David Kirtley

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#15 posted 07-10-2011 10:49 PM

Hey, I am not knocking it. I have a chisel fetish. I just make sure that I recognize the truth and keep from deluding myself :)

I also don’t expect that if someone put a Stradivarius in my hand it would make me a virtuoso. I would make it screech just as bad as the $100 one.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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