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07-10-2011 09:05 PM

Topic tags/keywords: question trick oak

I have a small shop, and because of this i do all my glue ups right before I leave for the day. Yesterday I glued and clamped my medicine cabinet door. Only 1 as I didn’t have enough clamps to get both. Today I walk in and find one of my clamps slipped off right after I left.

I don’t know if you can tell, but that’s a mirror in the door. I really think my only option is to try to save the mirror by any means. But I have been surprised at the knowledge on this forum before, so, does anyone have a fix for this? I have a plan in mind to take the mirror out, but if someone has an idea of how to go about this please feel free to wow me with your wisdom!

The mirror is free floating in grooves, and there are space balls on all four sides. The tenons are glued with Tiitebond III. Thanks in advance for any ideas.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew


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#1 posted 07-10-2011 09:11 PM

The pics didn’t show up. What I ended up with is a 1/8” gap in one corner. I’m going to try to get pics on here, but I haven’t had any luck today. https://picasaweb.google.com/lh/photo/VHkOnCoOUVMwOoYuR6GAXA?feat=directlink

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#2 posted 07-10-2011 09:12 PM

As you can see, I’m trying everything.

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#3 posted 07-10-2011 09:56 PM

(crickets)

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#4 posted 07-10-2011 10:03 PM

You can add exclamation point before and after the URL of the photo. I tried it and got a server error. May be an issue with your photo site. I’ll let the experts speak on how to fix it.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#5 posted 07-10-2011 10:18 PM

Personally, I would take my Dozuki Pull Saw and cut apart the door frame and start over. I assume this has thrown off the size/fitting of the door panel to the medical cabinet. I guess you could try filling, but I figure you wanted a natural wood finish and filling would look bad unless you go with a painted finish.

It’s like pulling teeth,... It’s going to hurt anyway you do it but it needs to be done/redone.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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#6 posted 07-10-2011 10:41 PM

Wayne , as far as I’m concerned, you are the experts. H. Mike , I don’t have a dosuki, but we are thinking along the same lines. I guess I was looking for the magical fix, hey, sometimes they happen! No as far as the fit, but it’s going in my house. LOML said she could live with it. I can’t, and I’m sure everyone on here feels the same.

Hey, I finally got it.

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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#7 posted 07-10-2011 10:50 PM

What does the other corner look like?

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#8 posted 07-10-2011 10:57 PM

Try Re-clamping and squeezing it hard. I am thinking if the clamp fell off the glue is not binding properly anyway, it just might move for you .

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#9 posted 07-10-2011 11:06 PM

If you could get that one apart and then pulled back together, you’d be putting a lot of stress on the other joints. If that were shared, perhaps it would work.

Here’s a thought. If you could saw the joint apart and trim it to get it to butt together, it could be glued with epoxy and or dowelled from the edge.

Kindly,

Lee

-- "...in his brain, which is as dry as the remainder biscuit after a voyage, he hath strange places cramm'd with observation, the which he vents in mangled forms." --Shakespeare, "As You Like It"

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#10 posted 07-10-2011 11:17 PM

Depending upon the type of glue that you used you might be able to heat the corners on the same side with a heat gun or a good blow dryer , soften the glue, which really hasen’t hardened as yet and pull that stile off. Clean the used glue off and start over. I have used this method with different types of carpenter’s glues and hide glue on new work and old. It takes some time to warm to the center of the joint but it usually works, But with some of today’s new glues I’m not sure but I’d give it a try before cutting it apart. This is the way I dissassemble furniture when I do a complete reglue for a customer.

MIKE

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#11 posted 07-11-2011 12:10 AM

I would do what Lee said. Cut the joint apart and reglue using a dowel or biscuit.

-- Wayne - Plymouth MN

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#12 posted 07-11-2011 12:19 AM

Thank you all for the excellent suggestions. Wayne , the other corners are tight. Lee , the dowel from the outside would definately be do-able, as the outside will have a border that would hide the dowel. This is probably what I’m going to try, however, Mike’s suggestion would give me more options. I can try the heat first, if it doesn’t work I can cut and dowel. What do I have to lose, except my mind?

Thanks guys!

-- Wish I were Norm's Nephew

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#13 posted 07-11-2011 12:24 AM

A note to all: The reason for my comments above (especially the crickets) is that I checked back a while after I posted and the thread had gone off the home page and the pulse. I figured if I didn’t create some activity the question would be buried before anyone had a chance to see it. Now that I look at it, it does look a little smart a** and that was not my intention, hence the clarification.

Thanks again.

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#14 posted 07-11-2011 01:17 AM

Another thought that I had on this is similar to what Wayne and Lee suggested. If you can’t get the joint separated, cut it apart and put it back together with pocket screws/glue. This will form a strong joint and the screws will be on the back side of the mirror. Not a classic joint I know, but it will hold the mirror just fine.

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#15 posted 07-11-2011 04:18 AM

If you are in a hurry-up situation, do what Mike says; trash it and start over. You don’t have much invested in materials, and time involved in repairing will be significant. If, however, you’re like a lot of us and want to learn new skills, and you HATE to admit defeat, you have several good options to try. Start with heating, be patient, and report back with what did and didn’t work. We all learn from each other and now you get to be the teacher. Good luck.

Steve

-- Steve in KY. 44 years so far with my lovely bride. Think I'll keep her.

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