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Forum topic by Greg In Maryland posted 1115 days ago 995 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Greg In Maryland

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1115 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: handplane restoration

Hi

I am in the middle of restoring a Stanley number 3 and a number 4. Do most folks flatten the sole and then reapply the jappaning (paint) or paint and then flatten the sole?

Also, I have read that you should flatten the sole with the frog, blade, chipbreaker and cap installed. Is there any merit to this?

Thanks.


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Arch_E

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#1 posted 1115 days ago

As a user, I never repaint. If I wanted to paint, it would be the last thing done to the plane. Never paint areas where the frog sits, or the blade. And, you should definitely flatten the bottom with the blade, cap iron, and lever cap in place—but with the blade fully retracted.

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CharlieM1958

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#2 posted 1115 days ago

Yes to flattening with everything assembled. I paint last, although I can’t think of a reason why you couldn’t paint first, flatten after.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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WayneC

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#3 posted 1115 days ago

Agree. Flatten frog and everything assembled. I am also not a fan of repainting/japanning planes…

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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jamesicus

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#4 posted 1115 days ago

I also do not re-paint antique tools. I occasionally touch up small paint chipped areas using a black magic marker for appearance sake.

James

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Bertha

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#5 posted 1115 days ago

Agree with all above. Flatten the sole with the plane setup like it’s ready to cut, just with the blade withdrawn. That’ll make the theoretical flatness functional flatness. I paint planes, but I probably shouldn’t. All mine are users and sometimes I like them better reJapanned; sometimes not.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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Don W

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#6 posted 1114 days ago

If the plane’s are common 3 and 4, and the japanning is bad, I don’t see a problem painting. I typically paint first, but as charlie said, there’s not a reason behind it. I wouldn’t paint a type 1 or 2. I agree with flatten with everything together.

-- Master hand plane hoarder. - http://timetestedtools.com

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Broglea

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#7 posted 1114 days ago

You can paint before or after. Its up to your preferance. I’ve done both. It all depends. I agree with everyone else. Flatten fully assembled with blade retracted.

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David Grimes

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#8 posted 1114 days ago

Timely advice and all agree, too. Great question.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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Greg In Maryland

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#9 posted 1113 days ago

Thanks guys.

I would say that there was less than 40% of the japanning left after the electrolysis bath, so I decided to take it all off and paint it hot pink. It takes a strong man to paint his tool hot pink.

These are intended to be worker bees in my shop and restoration teaching aids, so I wanted to break them down completely and start all over.

Cheers

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David Grimes

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#10 posted 1113 days ago

So who did you get to paint it, then… lol j/k I’m just sayin’

I was thinking that more of a khaki / mauve camo might inspire a more manly motiff… ;=)

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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HorizontalMike

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#11 posted 1113 days ago

Blue painter’s tape and a razor blade are great for masking off areas NOT to be painted, as listed above. FWIW, I peel the tape after spraying but BEFORE it dries.

-- HorizontalMike -- "Woodpeckers understand..."

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