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07-22-2018 02:34 AM

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I’d like to keep it as close to the light natural color as possible – which means I’m probably just going to use polycrylic – but is there anything that will bring out the grain without making the rest yellow or amber?

Second question: I suspect this tabletop – a 3” x 5’ round beast – was used as an art table in a school or Color Me Mine. That’s a long-winded way of saying there’s a deep stain with a brown ring on the side that I can’t sand out, and I’d like to mask it somehow.

Any ideas? Can you bleach it, blending in the bleached area? Or will I just make it worse…

(Too bad you’re seeing the underside and stained side of the tabletop. I sanded the top, and this thing is gorgeous. Solid maple 3” thick. Yeah baby!)

TIA


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#1 posted 07-22-2018 02:54 AM

It looks like mineral streaks in the wood itself. Try some wood bleach on it if it bothers you.

-- Bondo Gaposis

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#2 posted 07-22-2018 03:18 AM

Actually I don’t think it’s a mineral streak, I think it’s a stain. See how the right side of the brown line is yellowed? The top of the wood is also yellow slightly.

But I’ll try some bleach. Thanks.

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#3 posted 07-22-2018 03:21 AM

Hm. This is a picture I found in a search. Maybe you’re right.

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#4 posted 07-22-2018 11:47 AM

If you want to keep it “white” use a water based finish, polycrylic would not be on the list, in particular for a table. Target EM9000 or GF wb poly. Personally I do not like the drab clear look from wb on maple. A little color brings out the grain.

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#5 posted 07-22-2018 08:06 PM

I have two kinds of polycrylic – Minwax water-based (both spray and can), and I think it’s a Var oil-modified one.

Is there a particular reason why polycrylic would not be on the list? I’ve used it on other tables and desktops, and it’s held up very well.

What would you use to bring out the grain? Again, I want to bring out the grain, I just don’t want to turn the whole thing amber.

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#6 posted 07-22-2018 08:12 PM

General Finishes is GF.

Okay. Is it just that you like those brands better?

Please elaborate!

Thanks.

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#7 posted 07-22-2018 08:39 PM

This is mw polycrylic. https://www.minwax.com/wood-products/clear-protective-finishes/interior/minwax-polycrylic-protective-finish. Very soft in my experience. Why those brands – meticulous research and testing over many years.

How would I bring out the grain – depends on the topcoat, but a dye, either oil or wb, about any color desired. Finishing is a system with quite a few parts that need to work together, as well as different methods, such as sanding back a dark color to accent the grain, and Im not going to write a book.

I have some maple turnings in my LJ’s projects. Most are mw ob poly with dye, others are wb finish. If there is something you like I can provide details.

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#8 posted 07-22-2018 09:19 PM

Okay, thanks.

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#9 posted 07-22-2018 09:28 PM

Your work is gorgeous.

I don’t think I want to dye it, but an oil like you have in your bowls (second picture) might be good. Will consult my owner.

This maple isn’t birdseye, although there are sections like that – which is why I think maybe you’re right that I need to do more than clearcoat it.

And yeah, that minwax stuff you say is soft is what I have. Will take your advice.

What you do is much more of a fine art than my stuff. I just like designing and making studio furniture – I’m not embarrassed to use dowel and pocket hole joints. :)

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#10 posted 07-23-2018 11:23 AM

That yellowed bowl has some dye. MW ob poly wont be that yellow on its own, at least not for many years. A little brown dye might be what you need. You can get dye from most otc stains – skim the top after the pigment has settled. Anyway, these blog entries may interest you. Maple usually needs blotch control when coloring, and the other discusses dye in poly. Whatever you do, practice on scrap. Go buy some maple for practice if you have to.

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#11 posted 07-23-2018 06:35 PM

Thanks 05U55.

By the way, this is a dining table I refinished over two years ago. It’s at my parents’ house, and it gets heavy use every day – including a few weeks during the year when all the grandkids are there for extended visits.

I think you’re more of a perfectionist than I am, because this is four or five coats of that Minwax polycrylic you linked above. It’s held up beautifully.

However, I’m still going to take your advice. :)

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