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Forum topic by MedicKen posted 07-08-2011 05:32 AM 1749 views 0 times favorited 30 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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MedicKen

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07-08-2011 05:32 AM

I have been looking for some non woodworking items on Craigslist for the past few months and they finally came up earlier today. I called the seller and left a message as the ad said to do. About an hour later I received a call from the seller and we discussed the items and I told him that I would take them but I would not be able to get there until tomorrow to pick them up. We AGREED that he would remove them from the list and hold them for me. Well, guess what? I got a text message of all things stating that he sold them and they were no longer available. I asked why he didnt hold them? His response was he was another buyer offered to purchase my items as well as others and he HAD to sell it!! Do people no longer have a conscience, morals, ability to keep their word any longer? Or is it just me?

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com


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auggy53

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#1 posted 07-08-2011 05:44 AM

you can thank the people that say they will buy and never show . so far people have been straight up with me as i have with others .

-- rick

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derosa

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#2 posted 07-08-2011 05:54 AM

The lumber I bought was still around because the seller had agreed to hold on to it for 2 days for a buyer; that was over a week prior to my buying them. It’s the third item I’ve bought that had people claiming they would buy it and then never showed up. I only call when I have cash in hand and the time to go get it other wise I’m just teasing myself and the seller.

-- --Rev. Russ in NY-- A posse ad esse

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Greg In Maryland

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#3 posted 07-08-2011 06:04 AM

A few years ago when I sold my motorcycle (sniff, sniff) I told the first person who I confirmed with that he would be the first buyer to look at it. The second or third or fourth person who contacted me wanted to get there first and was outraged that I wouldn’t go back on my word to the first buyer. Get this, he told me that “he couldn’t do business with me” That still cracks me up. At that point, I wouldn’t have sold it to him even if he had offered more money. Fortunately, the first buyer purchased it and I didn’t have to deal with it anymore.

There are many honest buyers and sellers out there, just as there are many jerks. You’ll get what you need with a little effort and patience.

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dbhost

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#4 posted 07-08-2011 06:11 AM

The old saying applies here… money talks…

-- My workshop blog can be found at http://daves-workshop.blogspot.com

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Loren

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#5 posted 07-08-2011 06:12 AM

Both buyers and sellers in Craigslist dealings frequently flake. I wouldn’t
agree to show/sell an item to one buyer and then sell it to another
in under 24 hours, but in practice, a huge percentage of potential
buyers flake-out.

I’ve tried to buy machinery many times from flaky sellers as well.

The flake factor goes both ways.

If you want clean deals, use ebay.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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MedicKen

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#6 posted 07-08-2011 06:21 AM

Ebay? Sure, I love paying twice retail. Not!!

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their therapist....medic20447@gmail.com

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Greg..the Cajun Wood Artist

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#7 posted 07-08-2011 06:35 AM

I have sold numerous items on craigslist and I cannot tell you how many times someone said they were coming to buy something and they never showed up. I tell people now that I do not hold items. Unfortunately you cannot tell who is sincere and who is just talking crap from a phone call. When I want to buy something from craigslist I go ASAP with cash in my pocket.

On the other hand, I saw a metal storage locker a couple of weeks ago on c list and called and got directions and told them I was on my way. After talking to them and telling them I was coming, something came up and I could not go…I called back and said I couldn’t come…a common courtesy call. To my surprise they said they would deliver it if i really wanted it. I said yes and gave them my address. They brought it by the next day without being paid first. WOW ! The drove about 45 minutes to deliver it. I was so impressed wit their integrity and I gave them an extra $25 above the sales price.

I also recently needed some air conditioning service on my A/C at home and set up an appointment with a guy who never showed up. I called another A/C guy and we set an appointment for 3 days later. He never showed up. Finally the third company I called showed up exactly when the said they would.

-- We all must start somewhere in our journey of doing what we love to do.

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klassenl

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#8 posted 07-08-2011 07:03 AM

I have had relatively good luck buying and selling on Kijiji (somehow Craigslist didn’t take off in Canada). I haven’t had any deal go bad, other than a guy buying my fridge who offered me $50 less than the $200 I was asking, then asking if I would deliver, and then breaking the outside pane of glass in my kitchen window and not even offering anything in compensation. All in all it was ok though, I got rid of the fridge, got my money, and the window was slated for replacement any way.

My most recent purchase was a jointer. The guy I was buying it from was in such bad health I didn’t have the heart to even ask if he would move on the price.

-- When questioned about using glue on a garbage bin I responded, "Wood working is about good technique and lots of glue........I have the glue part down."

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Loren

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#9 posted 07-08-2011 07:22 AM

Ebay can be very clean for the buyer – and especially with machinery
you can have an advantage from being local with reduced transportation
costs. If you win an auction fairly, the seller will very, very rarely refuse
to complete the deal.

The key to getting the bargains is flexible criteria and patience.

-- http://lawoodworking.com

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Tedstor

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#10 posted 07-08-2011 08:19 AM

The seller put himself in a bad position, and gained nothing by doing so. Whenever I sell on craigslist, I sell at firesale prices. The last thing I want is to have to relist an item multiple times, in the hope of fetching an extra 10-20%, and further subject myself to non-stop low-balling, no showing, and other general headaches. I try to list on Friday morning, and have the item gone within 24hrs. I often get people begging me to hold an item for them, even offering to pay a premium in some cases.
Given I’m typically selling a kid’s bike or some other nickel/dime item, an offer of an extra $5-10 hardly compensates me enough to chance having the “buyer” no-show. I’d rather sell to the first person that places the required number of greenbacks in my hand, and hauls the item away.
Don’t get me wrong, if someone says they’re coming over immediately, I wouldn’t sell the item to another person that might live closer. I’ll give them a reasonable amount of time. But no way I’d ever hold something much longer than that. Certainly not overnight. Too many potential problems can result; as this thread illustrates.

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ellen35

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#11 posted 07-08-2011 01:04 PM

I put a Bose stereo system on Craig’s List. Got a call from someone who said he would be there at 4 pm. Got another call from someone who wanted to come right down. I told him to come at 5 pm and leave his phone number with me in case there was a problem. True to form, the 4 pm guy never showed and I sold it to the 5 pm guy. Then the 4 pm guy called me to say he’d be down tomorrow… told him it was sold. He really didn’t want to pay my asking price so he was stalling to see if he could get it cheaper if it didn’t sell right away. I sold at my full asking price as it was a good deal to begin with. There is no way that the seller knows if the buyer is serious unless they show up ASAP. What if you got there and didn’t like what he had, the condition of the item, etc. The seller would have lost a sale. I understand that we are busy people and can’t always do things on other people’s schedules but if I want something, I’m on my way right after the contact.
Just my thoughts on this….

-- "Don't let the perfect be the enemy of the good." Voltaire

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gillyd

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#12 posted 07-08-2011 02:32 PM

As most people have said, when buying on the CL you have to have money in hand and be in your car after you agree.

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rivergirl

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#13 posted 07-08-2011 02:43 PM

Well stated gillyd! :)

-- Homer : "Oh, and how is education supposed to make me feel smarter? Besides, every time I learn something new, it pushes some old stuff out of my brain."

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Murf2499

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#14 posted 07-08-2011 03:13 PM

Whenever I have sold something on C-list I tell every caller the same thing; The first person here with cash and prepaired to take the item with them gets the item. Althow some complain that I will not hold it, in my book it’s the only fair way for everyone involved, including me. It also eliminated most people from trying to nickel and dime me.

-- Murf, Clifton Park, NY www.murphycustomwoodworking.com

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agallant

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#15 posted 07-08-2011 03:15 PM

It is annoying but there have been a few times where I agreed to hold something for someone and they never showed up. He should have asked you to call back when you were ready to pick it up and pay rather than promising to hold it for a stranger who asked him to reserve the item and remove the listing. Ether way you are both wrong. Your expectations are too high and he should not have agreed to hold the item.

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