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WayneC

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1112 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: jig carving tool carving traditional wonder pup wonder dog

Anyone have a recommendation for hole spacing to effectively using these. I’m making a carving jig and I am trying to decide if I will use a 3” or a 4” grid. I will be using a pair of wonder pups and a fence system similar to a bench hook.

http://www.leevalley.com/US/wood/page.aspx?p=31129&cat=1,41637,41645&ap=1

Top view and side view. Yellow circles are the dog holes. Dark blue if the fence.

I looked in the instructions and did not see any recommendations. Though there are a number of interesting ideas for using them in the instructions that I had not thought of…

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RGtools

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#1 posted 1112 days ago

The closer the better. trust me on this. Less time turning screws more time carving.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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#2 posted 1112 days ago

RG, do you think closer than 3”?

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#3 posted 1112 days ago

A lot depends upon the work pieces that are going to be held. If they are regular shapes, square or rectangular, then you can use a larger spacing, if you are going to have irregular shapes, then a smaller spacing is useful. I would have thought that 2 1/2” spacing, although more work (holes), would give you the maximum flexibility.

You are only going to make one of these – it should last you a very, very long time.

As for adjusting the wonder dogs quickly, just spin then like a “Football Rattle” – I do not think it will work on the “Pups” though, not enough mass.

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#4 posted 1112 days ago

Yup, the Pups spin just fine.. Wayne I’m not doing carving, but one thing with the dogs n’ pups and such on my bench is to use spacers. My dog holes are about 8 inches apart mostly, the ones running on the short side of the bench are closer. When I’m clamping smaller items, it’s a quick reach to the bottom shelf on my bench for a spacer or wedge
to fill the gap.

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#5 posted 1112 days ago

3” grid would do just fine.

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#6 posted 1105 days ago

There’s a pretty clever bench hook design in one of the recent PWW issues (June, IIRC). I just bought the materials to make one, and it’s designed around 2.5” spacing for the Pups.

-- Ben - resident cheese whiz.

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WayneC

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#7 posted 1105 days ago

I will have to check out the PWW issue. I went ahead and layed it out with 3” spacing. I think it will be fine. I’m trying to decide if I want to drill it by hand or use the drill press. Currently access to the drill press is difficult.

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#8 posted 1105 days ago

You can make a base with wider holes and then make a smaller base that fits on the first one with smaller holes. Kind of like a bench on a bench theory. I have thought of making one like this I just need to get around to it.

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WayneC

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#9 posted 1105 days ago

The pups are pretty versatile. I can see the ability to do a lot with them. The ability to screw stuff to them is interesting as well. I will probably post a review when I get finished with my carving fixture.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#10 posted 1105 days ago

I like newplane’s idea. I’ve made a few of these jigs to drop into my limited dogholes. I resorted to sticking the dogs in the holes, laying the jig on top, and blasting away with a brad nailer, generally aiming for the dog.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#11 posted 1090 days ago

Why not try a couple of different spacings on some scrap first? Go with 3, 4 or even 5” and see what works. You might find 2 1/2 to be optimum

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WayneC

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#12 posted 1090 days ago

I went with 3” after looking around some think it is going to work fine. I have drill a few pocket holes and do some sanding…

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Mike R.

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#13 posted 1081 days ago

wayne c , let me know how it turns out i plan on making one for using on my ship while im deployed.

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WayneC

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#14 posted 1081 days ago

It worked out pretty well at 3”

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#15 posted 1046 days ago

I have them and I made my holes 3” (about half the total travel distance on the dogs/pups). You want the holes less than the travel distance or you risk having to use spacers on some projects. I also found anything less than the 3” ran into being too close sometimes.

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