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Zoe4mom

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07-11-2018 08:24 PM

Topic tags/keywords: repair wood stair treads advice

Hi everybody, I have been stalking your forums for a while, as I have been remodeling a house and needed to learn some wood finishing techniques for the new treads that we put in. I was quite proud of them, until the railing people came in and completely ruined them. It is devastating and we don’t have time to wait for new treads to be made. So, I figured that if anyone had any advice on if/how these could be repaired, it would be you all. We need to fill in the holes with something that I can stain to match, but that will be hard enough to handle drilling holes (again) in the proper spots without crumbling out on the sides. I know there are epoxys and wood flour cement, I just don’t know which is best for what I need to do. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Also. I should mention that it was my dream to have the balusters go flush into the wood without knuckles. I’m hoping I can salvage that idea. Thanks!!!

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chrisstef

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#1 posted 07-11-2018 08:31 PM

Are you not putting ballusters in now? Are those holes from a failed balluster installation?

A plug cutter is going to be the ticket to fill those holes if youve got the meat left.

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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Breeze73

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#2 posted 07-11-2018 08:45 PM

I was initially thinking a plug cutter too, but stince they need to be redrilled, they’ll need to be likely full thickness. You could try that on some scrap and see if it suits your taste.

Epoxy crossed my mind, but that would likely stick out like a sore thumb.

For strength, maybe epoxy in some full thickness plugs?

It sounds like the railing company needs to fix this, not you. But it sounds like time is not on your side.

-- Breeze

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squazo

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#3 posted 07-11-2018 08:51 PM

I think if could describe what you desire as a finished look, we could help you out, but right now I’m a bit confused as to what you want.

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Zoe4mom

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#4 posted 07-12-2018 12:15 AM

Thank you all. So, yes, these are the failed baluster holes. We are prepping the steps ourselves before the railing ppl come back. I am wanting to repair the messed up holes so they don’t stick out like a sore thumb. My father in law tried some plugs, but I feel like those are even more obvious. Of course, I haven’t stained/ cerused them yet. I like the idea of putting epoxy in first and then a plug. What I was thinking was actually to put in an epoxy but then wood putty the top part. The reason for this is because I could then take a needle and etch out the grain in the hole so it matches the flow of the grain on the wood. This is important because it will be highlighted by the cerusing. I know it sounds tedious, but I am an artist so tedious doesn’t bother me. Lol! I just need to know if anyone thinks that idea would work as well. If so, I need product suggestions for what epoxy, etc will work the best. Thank you soooo much!

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chrisstef

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#5 posted 07-12-2018 12:24 AM

Quikwood comes in multiple colors.

Id cut the plugs with a plug cutter from the face of a board. It looks like youve got dowels in there showing the end grain.

-- Its not a crack, its a casting imperfection.

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squazo

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#6 posted 07-12-2018 02:39 AM

How big will the new holes be drilled? Where in realtion to the messed up holes will the new ones be?

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Zoe4mom

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#7 posted 07-12-2018 02:54 AM

Same size. We’re not sure. Some of the new holes might be in the same spot as an old one, we have no way of knowing until they show up. They really screwed up.

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TungOil

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#8 posted 07-12-2018 03:34 AM

I think you will see any repair done. Best bet would be to bite the bullet and replace the treads. I know time is not on you side with this, but you will always see it…..

-- The optimist says "the glass is half full". The pessimist says "the glass is half empty". The engineer says "the glass is twice as big as it needs to be"

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jbay

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#9 posted 07-12-2018 04:22 AM

How about adding a 1/4” thick cap with a small bevel around the edge.
Cut 1/4” off the balusters.

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Zoe4mom

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#10 posted 07-12-2018 04:42 AM

Thank you. I did think about adding a flat welded piece under the balusters, but I’m going to try the epoxy first. You guys have been so helpful! Thank you so much! I’ll keep you posted on how it goes. I’m going to do the quickwood epoxy tomorrow.

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RobbieB

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#11 posted 07-13-2018 07:43 AM

Could you rout out a strip where the holes are and infill with a contrasting timber? Make a flaw into a feature?

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Tony_S

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#12 posted 07-13-2018 10:25 AM



Same size. We re not sure. Some of the new holes might be in the same spot as an old one, we have no way of knowing until they show up. They really screwed up.

- Zoe4mom

I can see a few problems myself but What specifically are you unhappy with?

-- It is the mark of an educated mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it. Aristotle

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Zoe4mom

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#13 posted 07-13-2018 08:05 PM

Robbie B, that is a brilliant idea!

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tomsteve

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#14 posted 07-17-2018 12:07 PM

personally id drill the holes oversize then glue in a piece of dowel of the same wood as the treads and redrill.

i could get tedious by getting some material of the same type of wood as the tread and cutting out a lot of plugs ( plug cutters come in some pretty big sizes) then work at matching up the grain in the new holes as close as possible.

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Planeman40

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#15 posted 07-17-2018 02:12 PM

An interesting thread. Regarding Robbie B, this reminds me of what I sometimes say, “One of the differences between a poor craftsman and a good craftsman is a good craftsman knows how to cover up his mistakes”. :-)

-- Always remember: It is a mathematical certainty that half the people in this country are below average in intelligence!

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