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Forum topic by RockyTopScott posted 07-04-2011 12:43 AM 2103 views 0 times favorited 10 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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RockyTopScott

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07-04-2011 12:43 AM

Topic tags/keywords: question tablesaw tip

else used one for awhile and then decided they wanted something else?

I have read Spagnuolo’s posting about his use and decision to go back to a T type fence.

I am using mine with a Steel City cabinet saw and not sure I need the 1/1000th acuracy.

Also, it is a hassle to remove to use my sled, etc. and does not accept featherboards to well.

I am considering selling it all and getting a Biesemeyer commercial fence.

I would love to hear what the LJ community’s thoughts are on my consideration.

Thanks
RTS

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#1 posted 07-04-2011 12:49 AM

I’m very please with the T type fence on my Grizz 0444Z. The Aluma Classic is all I will ever need. Set it and forget it. I’ve trued it once, and it has not budged from the initial settings. Of course, I always measure any cut from fence to blade. I guess that old habits are hard to break. It’s not that I don’t trust the tape scale on the saw, but….....
Bill

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#2 posted 07-04-2011 02:24 AM

What other table saw fence can you use to make accurate
router jigs for box joints or dovetails and get the jig perfect
on the first try?

It’s just a matter of the math – no other type of fence system
can let you do that sort of cut.

That said, such precision is largely not needed in furniture and
cabinet making and a number of other factors like wood tension,
stock feeding, blade flutter and so on effect the real quality,
accuracy and straightness of a cut. All a fence does is provide
a stop – the rest is up to you and/or your power feeder.

I used to do a lot of coopering where I needed to make barrel
forms and repeat them. Each stave being 1/32 off from setup
to setup could affect the consistency of finsished size from
one assembly to the next by 1/4” or more. The Incra was useful
to me in making those forms accurately.

For cabinetmaking and general dimensioning in furniture I have
found it less useful as exact repeatability is not as crucial in
those areas of woodworking, generally.

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rlrjr

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#3 posted 07-04-2011 04:21 AM

As a novice in woodworking and never owning a table saw and fence before I was impressed with the advertisements for the Incra LS TS system when I came across it while doing research before I started buying equipment so I really don’t have any experience with other fence systems. I have already seen that it has some drawbacks since I’ve started using it but in defense of this system please let me say this: I had never cut dovetail joinery before in my life, either by hand or by machine, and with the Incra system I cut perfect fitting dovetail joints on the second try by using the proper scale and the instructions at the beginning of their book.

Tomorrow I’m going to tackle their double dovetail joints and see what happens. I hope that this proves to be as easy as the other dovetail joints.

Happy 4th to all.

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#4 posted 07-04-2011 04:26 AM

If I recall right from Marc, he switched back because he never felt the Incra locked down well..which is ridiculous to me since there are dual locks on both rails. I think it was just Marc’s way of saying that the Bies fits him like a glove and his hands were getting cold.

If you haven’t seen the need for the accuracy, then I take it that you don’t generally use the fence in a way that would take advantage of it. As an example, I was building a large mirror frame not long ago and I was going to create a 3/8” groove in the face of the boards to receive a walnut inlay strip. Quite simply, I just made three cuts 1/8th inch apart. Forgetting that I had my thin kerf blade on, the result was a strip left between cuts, which is the difference between the size of the blade kerfs. But because of the accuracy of the cuts, those strips remained intact, precisely thin. I thought it looked so good that I skipped the inlay entirely. It’s delicate, but pretty…and will hold up since it’s not something likely to be disturbed.

I haven’t seen the problem with feather boards and the sled as you describe so I can’t address that.

I think you might be like Marc and just aren’t comfortable with it…and you haven’t seen the need of using it for joinery which, as Loren says, is its real highlight. That’s okay though. It can be dangerous using a tool in which you lack confidence…there’s no shame in warming your hands with old gloves.

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#5 posted 07-04-2011 04:43 AM

Send it to me. I’ll dispose of that hunk of junk for you. ;)

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#6 posted 07-04-2011 07:10 PM

I bet you would offer to pay for shipping huh Donny?

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DonnyBahama

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#7 posted 07-06-2011 06:10 PM

Happily, Scott. :-)

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#8 posted 07-06-2011 06:13 PM

I’m in the market for the Incra TS fence. Is yours long or short rails? PM me if you really decide to unload it. Obviously, I like them; but don’t own one; so I can’t really comment;)

To play devil’s advocate, I’ve got a 50 year old JET contractor with a stock fence. It’s far more accurate than my ability.

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#9 posted 07-12-2011 01:08 AM

I’ll trade you a liegh 18” super jig use only once.

-- Billp

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#10 posted 12-29-2012 09:00 AM

Hi Rocky,

For me, the ability to repeatidly(sp?) rip wood strips to as thin as 1/32 of an inch safely is all thee reason I need to go with the Incra system. I’ve seen many jig setups for ripping thin stop but none of them would match the accurancy or the repeatability of the incra system!

-- Jupiter

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