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mafe

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07-03-2011 12:39 AM

Topic tags/keywords: chinese tools chinese wood working

A web tour to carpenters in China
or simply a surf on wood stuff shared with buddies

Before you start I must warn, there were no meaning behind this, just pre curiosity after reading some books about Japanese wood working and realizing some of its roots in China.


http://www.nipic.com/show/3/113/91c276dbd87184f5.html


http://sjhp1226.blog.hexun.com/29988893_d.html


http://www.sh1800.net/furniture/technics/645.htm
On this link you can see different workers, like the barrel maker and a guy using a frame saw.


Notice the beautiful handles on his tool totes, wonderful plane and the frame saw.
http://www.dfzb.suzhou.gov.cn/xhdt/416636.htm


Pushing the plane and frame saws on the wall, this could almost be Scandinavia.
http://blog.stnn.cc/msculture/Efp_Bl_1004418674.aspx


I love this simple workbench.
Funny we never see hammers, it seems the axe is the hammer.
http://www.mindan.org/uri/min084.html


Looks like it…
http://www.cncwe.org/Article/news/201105/871.html


A little inspiration to the box makers.
http://www.ccthere.com/article/2496067


The Chinese ink line, notice how simple, I believe that the Japanese say theirs are so ornamented because it comes from China.
http://www.epochtimes.com/gb/10/7/5/n2957570.htm


Miniature.
http://www.hm-3223.net/html/1/list_3835.html


http://www.chinese.cn/culture/article/2009-10/22/content_77714.htm


Cool tool box, and guide to making a simple work bench.
http://www.zuojiaju.com/thread-44254-1-1.html


Wonderful tools, maker of comes.
http://www.yiyuanyi.org/guoxue/201001/35695.html


More tools.
http://furniture.5d6d.com/thread-53076-1-1.html


Finally a carpenters tools together.
http://gz2010.qlteacher.com/submission/meishu/8028410


School.
http://www.cjjj.org/xm/default.asp


This image keeps coming up wonder if this could be the starter toolbox for the Chinese worker.
http://www.ixuebao.com/Home/Search?typeid=76

Hope this could be inspiring to others (I can’t be the only curious man on the planet).

Best thoughts,

Mads

-- Mad F, the fanatical rhykenologist and vintage architect. Democraticwoodworking.


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Beginningwoodworker

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#1 posted 07-03-2011 12:44 AM

Mad, thanks for the tour.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#2 posted 07-03-2011 01:00 AM

Very cool, Mads. Thanks for posting this.

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#3 posted 07-03-2011 01:01 AM

Mads, How could they possibly build anything, I didn’t see even one machine!! ;^))

-- ♫♪♪♫♫ Saddletramp, saddletramp, I'm as free as the breeze and I ride where I please, saddletramp ♪♪♪♫♪ ...... Bob W....NW Michigan (Traverse City area)

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#4 posted 07-03-2011 01:01 AM

Interesting. I would not mind playing around with a few of those tools…

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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RGtools

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#5 posted 07-03-2011 01:42 AM

I thinks this is a great lesson to be learned. With the right skills and the right tools great things can be accomplished. Very few tools are needed, but the skills are enough to occupy several lifetimes…as it should be.

-- Make furniture that lasts as long as the tree - Ryan

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djwong

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#6 posted 07-03-2011 01:59 AM

Thanks for posting this. There is so little information commonly available about chinese woodworking.

-- David W. Cupertino, CA

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#7 posted 07-03-2011 03:28 AM

thank´s Mads :-)

take care
Dennis

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#8 posted 07-03-2011 04:23 AM

This was a very interesting, and informative. I have always admired the Chinese methods, and find them fascinating.

Thank you Mads for the tour…

-- Scotty - aka... SgtSnafu - Randleman NC

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#9 posted 07-03-2011 05:02 AM

Mads,
Seeing those kits is interesting to me. I don’t think they are starter kits, I think they are complete kits ( well, just my opinion). Here’s why.

I recently shifted my location for some months. Since I could not carry very much and the place I was going to was remote, I brought a few tools with me ( chisels, mallet and a block plane is all I could fit).

When I arrived at the new location, I was interested in completing my toolkit so that I could make some things while I was there but I also had no use of powertools and didn’t want to repurchase all the tools I left behind, so I was looking for the minimum set of tools which could be used for just about any type of hand woodworking.

The kit which the Chinese have put together resembles what ended up in my new toolkit a great deal. I think these may represent the fundamental set of essential tools with which nearly anything can be made.
I believe that many carpenters, like bodgers, would travel to their work and own their own tools, so the fewer tools, the easier it was to travel, not to mention that owning a lot of tools was probably cost prohibitive.

The only thing I added were a few clamps ( however, it is possible that with the other tools a workbench could be made and some sort of clamping system used which didn’t require a pre-made clamp) and a drawknife – but I do see a spokeshave in one of the kits.

The idea of what is the minimum set of tools with which all other tools could be built is a fascinating mind exercise for me, which I’ve had to ponder quite a bit recently. I doubt I am the first to have every thought about this!

-- If you can't joint it, bead it!

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#10 posted 07-03-2011 06:48 AM

Interesting post Mads. They should know something about WW considering they were doing it 5,000 years ago. Plenty of time to get it figured out ;-))

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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devann

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#11 posted 07-03-2011 07:11 AM

Very Nice Mads. Thanks for the post, I liked it.

-- Darrell, making more sawdust than I know what to do with

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#12 posted 07-03-2011 10:36 AM

Very interesting

a great tour Mads

jamie

-- Who is the happiest of men? He who values the merits of others, and in their pleasure takes joy, even as though 'twere his own. --Johann Wolfgang von Goethe

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#13 posted 07-03-2011 10:46 AM

Cool stuff, mads. I saw a hand-carved oriental piece (a fold-out bar with many compartments) last week that amazed me to think how skilled and how much time (and patience) was required to make it.

Like saddletramp said, the lack of machinery is shocking. In the “school” picture (and others with people working), the other lack of seems to be anything recognizable as a project in construction or completion anywhere in sight. Are they making dimensional lumber ? or what ?

Also, fire extinguisher placement does not appear to be to code, either. ;=)

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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Schwieb

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#14 posted 07-03-2011 01:44 PM

It has always fascinated me to observe how similar problems of everyday life are solved in different cultures. Sometimes these ways are familiar to us and often they are quite different

Thanks Mads

-- Dr. Ken, Florida - Durch harte arbeit werden Träume wahr.

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helluvawreck

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#15 posted 07-03-2011 01:54 PM

Mads, I appreciate this. I’m going to make it a favorite so I can get back to it.

-- If a man does not keep pace with his companions, perhaps it is because he hears a different drummer. Let him step to the music which he hears, however measured or far away. Henry David Thoreau

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