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07-02-2011 11:39 PM

Came across this today and thought I would share. A very interesting school doing great things.

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#1 posted 07-03-2011 09:50 AM

Interesting. Returning to the basics that made this country might just be a good idea before it is all gone.

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#2 posted 07-04-2011 04:27 AM

That link says that there is no program to teach the Mechanical trades in this country except theirs. There are excellent schools going on every day in union apprenticeships. The schooling is excellent and free! Jobs are guarnteed while in school. 4-5 years. Minorities are put to the front of the list to get into many of the trades.

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#3 posted 07-05-2011 07:56 AM

I was excited for my son, until I found out they must be less than 20 to apply. Good for those just graduating HS though. Thanks for sharing.

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#4 posted 07-05-2011 02:06 PM

I enjoyed looking that place over. It looks like a good place for a young person to go to school and learn something practical. There’s way to many people in this country that have business administration degrees that end up working in Walmart and other such places. If you end up learning something practical, develop a good work ethic, and have a good solid character you will never know unemployment for long. This place looks like they develop all three of those traits. Thanks for posting this, David.

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#5 posted 07-06-2011 01:43 AM

rance :::::: WOW! Realy? Age discrimination! Apprenticeships stopped that 20+ years ago. I thought just the military could get away with that.

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#6 posted 07-06-2011 04:40 AM

WHAT ABOUT THE MILITARY?! JK they don’t discriminate on age, there are people that are 17 that join, and at the other end of the age scale its more about having fit people.

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#7 posted 07-06-2011 05:11 AM

My high school had a magnet program with a vocational high school. I always wanted to go, but it would have meant giving up regular high school, so I settled for taking most of the technological classes my regular school offered.

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#8 posted 07-06-2011 05:11 AM

I am 17 and in a High school where all we have are 2 small horticulture and mechanics classes, which we basically do nothing in. Classes at my public school have 30-40 people in them, are crowed, and if you don’t like”chalk board education” your told you will be nothing in life.Everything I have learned and built has been by my own self-teaching. Much of the time it has been through trial and error. Without the internet I wouldn’t have taught myself much of it. I can’t get into a public vocational high school because there too many people. Anything private that costs money is not an option. My mother tells me if I don’t graduate high school no trade school will take me and I will work at mcdonalds my entire life. I am interested in engineering (mechanical & electrical) but couldn’t sit at a desk all day, I love working with my hands.

That school at that link Is interesting. I might even be interested But religion does not go for me. I can’t stand religion. I hate how people think you can’t have morals and ethics unless you are a bible thumper.

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#9 posted 07-06-2011 05:23 AM

This thread really needs to be put in the Non-shop Talk forum. It has very little to do with woodworking. Chris nailed it by pointing out the religious agenda. I was hoping this thread would die on the vine but I knew it wouldn’t, unfortunately.

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#10 posted 07-06-2011 05:25 AM

You will need to graduate to get the best shot at getting into a decent trade school so stick with it. One of the kids in my youth group did graduate but didn’t want to take anyone’s advice on going into college or trade school and instead decided he would make his way in the real world. He’s headed to college next year because BK sucks to work at. A trade is easily the equal of any job out of a 4 year college and too many schools/young people ignore the value and don’t give the trades the dignity they deserve.

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#11 posted 07-10-2011 09:11 AM

Chris, don’t discredit college. There are good colleges and community colleges with great technical degrees that offer alot of hands on learning. Never assume until you have looked at the schools and research it for yourself. I also agree with you about having ethics and morals based on something other than religion and fear of eternal damnation, lol.

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#12 posted 07-10-2011 06:00 PM

This is a great article and should stay right where it is where people can see and comment on it.

I am a graduate of vocational high school, Trott Vocational High School Niagara Falls NY graduating Class of 1970 and am proud of it. At the time this school had standards to which we had to up hold. The two most important to me were maintaining a MINIMUM 70% average in ALL classes and attendance, mine was perfect in my 3 years there. I wanted to take carpentry but didn’t like the teacher so I took auto mechanics. Through that course and its disciplines I have been employed most of my adult life not only in auto mechanics but also as a carpenter, machinist and welder/fabricator. I have owned my own woodworking and locksmithing businesses. About 5 years after graduation I was approached to replace one of the retiring auto mechanics teachers, I was pleased to be asked but turned down the position because of what I could see in the type of students that our school system was producing, I just didn’t want the hassle. But that’s neither here or there.

Over the years I have spoken to many people in industry and trades and all agree there are just not enough people going into trades to fill the needs and those that are, are ill-equipped. But then those that are good at skilled trades make very good money that rivals those with a 4-year college degree and they usually don’t have that college debt to pay off. Industry and the skilled trades NEED more interested people to join and if you had continued to read the comments at the end of the article you would see that these men are in demand as are all from any good trade school.

And before I close let me make a comment on the need of going to chapel. As was stated in the article chapel is non denominational but based upon Judeo-Christian values, values upon which this great country was founded. Many colleges, at least in my area, require some sort of chapel or religious class so you are going to get such training one place or the other no matter where you attend. But it’s only for the time you attend there so after you graduate religion is up to you but the values instilled there will remain with you. I would think that if this is your only complaint about the school you could eat humble pie and put up with it and get the quality education that you want and most likely deserve. Now personally my only complaint about Williamson was getting up at 6:30am for “Line-up, Inspection, and Reveille”; flag ceremony, ok, but not at 6:30am. If that was where I wanted to go to school for a FREE quality education, I’d put up with it for four years. Small price to pay.


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#13 posted 07-12-2011 12:57 AM

That’s nice MIKE, but it has nothing whatsoever to do with sharing woodworking skills – the topic of this forum. Hence, this thread should be moved to the Non-shop Talk forum. As far as I’m concerned this thread’s topic is nothing other than SPAM.

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