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CharlieM1958

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1149 days ago

I just grabbed a #35 transitional plane on eBay to add to my collection, and when I get my hands on it I’m going to be curious about its approximate age. I have a couple of good resources for dating iron planes, but I’m having trouble finding anything on the internet about dating transitionals. Any suggestions?

Here is the plane, although the photos that were with the listing are not detailed enough to do much with.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"


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#1 posted 1149 days ago

Can’t help, but it is a real cutie. I can see why you couldn’t resist the temptation. Stanley, I suppose??

-- "some old things are lovely, warm still with life ... of the forgotten men who made them." - D.H. Lawrence

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#2 posted 1149 days ago

Damn Charlie, wish I could help, but I don,t know doodly squat about antique tools… It is interesting looking, I once had an older stanley metal plane whose works looked like that but your plane looks to predate that by a wide margin ! Looks great ! sorry I can’t help .

Don S.

-- If it smells good, eat it ! The pig caught under the fence is the one doing all thesquealing

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CharlieM1958

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#3 posted 1149 days ago

As I understand it, this Stanley model was produced from 1870 all the way up to 1942. I’m just looking to narrow it down.

The rest of my planes have been purchased as “users”. This one interested me more as a conversation piece.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#4 posted 1149 days ago

I can safely place it in Holocene of Quaternary period. Most likely late Iron Age.

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#5 posted 1149 days ago

I’m not sure I have seen a type study on these. I have some Stanley books. I will try to take a look later this evening after I get back from dinner.

There is some info on blood and gore. At least this is one of the transitional models he does not recommend burning….lol

http://www.supertool.com/stanleybg/stan4.htm

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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CharlieM1958

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#6 posted 1149 days ago

Thanks, Wayne. I saw Patrick’s write up, but not a lot else is out there on these.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#7 posted 1149 days ago

Your welcome. I’m not sure there is as much collector interest in them. Some of the out of print Stanley tool collecting books might have more info, but they are hard (expensive) to get a hold of.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#8 posted 1149 days ago

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#9 posted 1149 days ago

I’ve got a few transitionals with date stamps on various parts. This one is a desirable one, that’s for sure.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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CharlieM1958

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#10 posted 1149 days ago

Don: Thanks for the info.

Al: Not having it in hand yet, the only date I know for sure is an 1892 date stamped on the iron.

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#11 posted 1149 days ago

Charlie did you see this?

http://www.hansbrunnertools.gil.com.au/stanley%20by%20numbers/Stanley%2021.htm
http://www.hansbrunnertools.gil.com.au/stanley%20by%20numbers/Stanley%2035.htm

I do not have it in my stanley books. I think you would need to look in a copy of Patented Transitional and Metallic Planes in America, 1827-1927 (Vol. I & II) by Roger K. Smith. The main problem is that they are out of print and run over $100 each used.

-- We must guard our enthusiasm as we would our life - James Krenov

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#12 posted 1149 days ago

Dare I say it? Blood and gore is useful, but incomplete in some areas, very opinionated in others, then almost no comment on still others. Better than nothing, I suppose. Lots of pictures, thankfully.

-- If you're going to stir the pot, think BIG spoon or SMALL boat paddle. David Grimes, Georgia

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CharlieM1958

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#13 posted 1148 days ago

Well, I don’t plan on buying a $100 book to find out how old my $28 plane is. And I was just at the Library of Congress last month! LOL!

-- Charlie M. "Woodworking - patience = firewood"

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#14 posted 1148 days ago

Charlie, thats a nice looking plane.

-- CJIII Future cabinetmaker

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#15 posted 1148 days ago

David, you bring up a very interesting point. So as not to hijack this wonderful transitional thread, perhaps we should move it over to handplanes of your dreams. Patrick has some definite opinions, some of which I disagree with, but he knows far more than I ever will. A question to a guy like yourself and any others, do you agree with his opinion that the Bedrocks are hype? I know you have both, as do I and many others. Setting aside the frog adjustment feature, do you consider them superior. I do, which is why I’m asking.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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