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06-28-2011 12:28 AM

Looks like LOML and I are having a new house built. Should be moving in about 4-6 months.

This is a good thing !

My shop will be a basement shop—no walk-out, so … access by the stairs.

Full basement with 9’ ceilings. We’ll likely just have the builder build out the shop, during construction. The space that lends itself best to becoming the shop is about 480 square feet—about what I have now.

After a fair bit of thought, and some time playing with Grizzly’s online shop layout program … I’ve come up with the following:

1) The whole basement layout, showing the part that my shop will occupy:


2) Lighting and electrical plan:


3) Tool layout:


I hope these links work …. :-)

If so … I’d be grateful for anybody’s comments or suggestions.

Thanks much !

-- -- Neil

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#1 posted 06-28-2011 12:41 AM

Neil…..Looks good. Is there anyway that you might be able to add the dust collector and compressor into the mechanical room? It would solve a lot of the noise issues associated with them as well as free up floor space.

Are the lights going to be recessed in the ceiling? If not, might consider it.

-- My job is to give my kids things to discuss with their

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#2 posted 06-28-2011 12:42 AM


the links require you to have a google account, first link is not shared anyways so I couldn’t see. but the tool arrangement looks a bit crowded in the center of the basement – I would opt to clear out the center and have wider walk ways – less bumps and bruises is a good thing ;)


-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#3 posted 06-28-2011 12:43 AM

edit – I can now see the 1st link (maybe something was bad on my end first try)

-- ㊍ When in doubt - There is no doubt - Go the safer route.

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#4 posted 06-28-2011 01:51 AM

Neil, it looks like a comprehensive and well thought out plan of action. I’ll be pulling for you to carry it out; and if you do I believe that you will end up with a very nice shop indeed. You have an organized mind and I believe that you will take care of the very last detail.

-- helluvawreck aka Charles,

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#5 posted 06-28-2011 02:06 AM

Congrats, Neil. The shop looks good.

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#6 posted 06-28-2011 02:22 AM

looks great Neil. You’ve squeezed an impressive amount of tools into your space.

-- Sometimes the creative process requires foul language. -- Charles Neil

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#7 posted 06-28-2011 02:28 AM

move the dog a little to the left. Don’t want you to trip over him. Looks good other than that.

-- - Collecting is an investment in the past, and the future.

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#8 posted 06-28-2011 03:53 AM

I like the addition of your dog and the ikea armoire. I was wondering will you have an area dedicated to finishing?

-- It's made of wood. Real sturdy.--Chubbs Peterson

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#9 posted 06-28-2011 03:05 PM

Ikea? For shame…
Is the planer situated for running 8’ of stock through? Or is it on a mobile base?
Every shop needs a shop dog!!
Looks like it will be a nice shop.

-- I haven't had this much fun since hogs ate my little brother.

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#10 posted 06-28-2011 03:11 PM

Good to see you have embrassed your inner self and created a tranquil setting for your Yoga Neil :-)

-- No one plans to fail, they just, just fail to plan

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#11 posted 06-28-2011 03:16 PM

Wow, what an exciting time! This is going to be one great shop.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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#12 posted 06-28-2011 03:51 PM

Thanks, all … as always.

Ken: I’d love to do that—put the DC and the compressor behind the shop wall, and inside the mechanical room. I’ll have to figure out how practical that is—whether I would have to plumb the DC to do that, or whether I could simply run my existing hose through a penetration in that wall.

Most of the tools are on mobile bases. Anything that isn’t … most likely will be. The corner marked for lumber storage won’t have any walls, initially, but is sort of “set aside” for a possible future finishing room.

Until/unless it gets built … I’ll probably have to continue to do my finishing the way I do, now—on my workbench or assembly table, and with exhaust fans running.

And if/when it DOES get built … I have NO idea where lumber will go. I’m counting on being able to make one entire wall lumber racking, and take full advantage of the machines’ mobile bases. I don’t have much choice. Something’s gotta’ give ;-)

The dog: well … Grizzly included him on the Shop Planner, and … what the heck … may as well see how he/she would fit in.

You’re right about the tripping hazard, though, and I can’t count on that darned (potential) dog to get out of MY way, when I can’t see where I’m going :-)

Obviously, things on wheels creates a lot of flexibility, but … if I’m going to start building in electrical—ceiling, wall, and floor mounted—I’d like to get it pretty close to where it ought to be.

The light fixtures: I was thinking surface-mount, rather than flush mount, but … I’ll probably be driven more by cost than anything else. It WILL be nice not to keep smacking my hanging fixtures with boards, wondering which time I’ll rain glass and who-knows-what-else down on me :-)

I actually DO do yoga … occasionally … but LOML is pretty well into it, and … hers is a pretty simple build (big room, float a cork floor). But … for the good of Humanity … if/when I am doing yoga … it SHOULD be outside of the view of others LOL !

Sharon: yeah. I will have to figure out how to keep the aisle ways clear. The “on paper” layout is definitely going to be nothing more than a starting place. I’m sure lots of tweaks will happen along the way … once I get in there. My passageways are very tight, now, so … I tend to use echolocation to get through my shop. My wife gets alarmed by all the weird clicking noises, but … that’s life ;-)

I’m also trying to figure out how/if a cabinet saw can be jammed into the budget, so … I have to revise this to accommodate a biggun, with 52” rails.

It’s definitely trying to get ten gallons of water into a five gallon bucket.

-- -- Neil

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#13 posted 06-28-2011 04:07 PM

I would rethink the 52” rails on the saw. You are going to be limited on room and the only real reason for rails that long is for plywood and other sheet goods. I think I would use a smaller rail and knock down the ply with a circular saw outside or in another part of the shop prior to heading to the table saw. 4×8 sheets are hard enough to handle even without the cramped space. If I were doing this, and i’m not, at least not yet, I would look at possibly getting the Festool panel saw instead of the big rail system.

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#14 posted 06-28-2011 04:20 PM

That’s a good thought, Ken.

I was thinking what a luxury it would be to NOT have to cut down sheet goods with a circ/track saw, but … you might be right … that the extra space might be the real luxury.

I noticed the “American Woodworker” knocks everything down with the DeWalt track saw. Seems brain-dead-easy, and perfectly accurate.

Yeah. Good thought. Thank you.

-- -- Neil

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#15 posted 06-28-2011 04:35 PM

You gonna start building prefabricated houses in there? Gadzooks, a serious shop.

Nothing I would rather do than start from scratch, but it isn’t gonna happen. However, I am finally throwing stuff out that I haven’t used for 20 years.

I have the room in theory to cut down a 4×8 piece of plywood, but it is just too much hassle to move the piece around. Out comes the circular saw, in my case. I have thought of getting the Festool plunge saw, but haven’t got there yet.

Later…......busy this morning…......

-- Jim, Anchorage Alaska

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