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piesafejim

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1025 days ago

Topic tags/keywords: mortising machine

I am in the market for a Mortisiing Machine i have scoured alot of places and then i loked on amazon i am new to this sight is it like ebay and i suppose they sell used items there as well? If anyone can help me i would appreciate it


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David Kirtley

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#1 posted 1025 days ago

Not to dissuade you from buying, I would suggest being really careful in the choice. I was pretty disappointed in mine (Harbor Freight). If I was forced to give up one power tool, it would be out the door first. The cheap ones don’t have good clamping which is pretty problematic when you have 3 inches of chisel down in a piece of wood and you are pulling it out. They also have to handle a pretty wide range of heights when you are doing mortises on stiles. The little ones just don’t have much reach.

Unless you are looking at the big machines, I would say that you are better off buying a quality drill press with a mortising attachment rather than a dedicated bench mortiser.

-- Woodworking shouldn't cost a fortune: http://lowbudgetwoodworker.blogspot.com/

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#2 posted 1025 days ago

I just paid $150 and got a Jet JBM-5 mortiser off the classifieds. Brand new machine, still had original labels/stickers on it. Guy bought it with plans to use it and never did. Also got the “new” unused Jet chisels, which I understand aren’t too bad. The mortiser had been on my hunt list for seveeral months.

Almost everything in my shop I bought used….......and most of it is top-of-the-line equipment. Just have to be diligent and patient and know exactly what you want and have the cash ready when the moment comes. That’s how I got this Jet.

With the economy the way it is and folks moving or dying or divorcing or losing interest or whatever, there is a lot of real good used stuff out there.

Works for me anyway.

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Les

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#3 posted 1025 days ago

Hey guys and gals,

Check this item out, its not out yet but will be soon. I just know what I read, but it doesn’t look bad.

http://www.generaltools.com/-870--E-Z-Pro-Mortise-Tenon-Jig_p_1295.html

Les

-- Stay busy....Stay young

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#4 posted 1025 days ago

I purchased a Jet model #JBM5 about 7 years ago. The machine is strong and accurate. There is a learning curve with this tool as well as others. Setup, patience and understanding the equipment are the keys to success. Expect to pay $200.00 for a good one. I found out there is not much difference in the machines. It’s really about the bits and the wood your working with. A lot of my projects are with 6/4 material of Oak and Poplar. It’s slow going. I looked into the router system. Ithought the set up time for multiple joints where too long. I also looked at cabinet shop machines that are high end. they worked on the same principle as mine, but to me it wasn’t worth the money and they took up too much space. Let us know what you decide

-- check, recheck then check again

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piesafejim

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#5 posted 1025 days ago

Thanks for the replies. I have been using my neighbors’ for a couple of months now and i love it. It is the delta after alot of loking i was going to by th harbor freight version but i am leaning to the shop fox i like the look of it and the reviews are stelar and i like to be ble to turn it for off table work…........ so the search continues i wish there was a local dealer tht caried them i llike to put my hans on something before buying it.
Thanks again, Jm

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#6 posted 1025 days ago

Hey Rusty

Not to hijack this thread, but I read that Rockler made a table that was much better than the stock Jet table. Rockler no longer carries that item I have never used a mortiser and just picked up the Jet. I have no idea what is good/bad about the Jet table, nor how to improve it. Any suggestions?

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Bertha

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#7 posted 1025 days ago

I bought this JET off Amazon. No complaints. Regarding the table, I never really gave it much thought. I mean, the thing cuts square holes in stuff. The JET bits are terrible; I bought the ShopFox ones. The little wishbone seems to work. It’s kind of hard for me to get excited about this machine. Keep in mind that for a bit more, you can have the Powermatic. If I had the floorspace, I’d have a big vintage mortiser instead for around the same price. I’ve heard rumors of this Rocker table, but I know nothing of it. I think the Delta, ShopFox, and JET are all about the same quality. I’d be careful going below those in the quality department.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#8 posted 1025 days ago

Thanks, Al,

As I said above, I just picked up a new JBM5 for $150 and now need to learn how to use it.

Thanks.

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piesafejim

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#9 posted 1025 days ago

arent ther some companies and i thought one was in Atlanta that sold used and refurbished equipment.

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rusty2010

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#10 posted 1024 days ago

hey there Al!
I built an extension table the same height as the machines table. It has a slot for the machine to set in with 2’ extensions an each side. The table folds in the middlle via a butt hinge for compact stoage. I clamp both the table and machine to the work bench. This does help. Cutting a square hole is not a cake walk. It does take some effort and leverage. Your choice of wood will determine how much of each. I’ve not seen the table your refering to. In the future I would suggest Rocklers honing tool. When laying out and dsigning I always Check, Recheck and check again,,good luck
JM
All machines work on the same principle and use he same bits. The motor, chuck, spindle,bearings and the machines framework are proportional to the cost. If you go to Harbour freight and buy one for a $150.00 you will soon find out the difference It’s kind of like binoculars, you get what you pay for. Save a little more and buy the Jet, Shop fox or Delta they’re all good. The big machines are for the big boys who do it for a living and just about all the time. I don’t live in that world.

-- check, recheck then check again

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Bertha

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#11 posted 1024 days ago

Thanks guys! I didn’t mean to make light of the mortiser. I’m a handtool guy, so I always feel like I’m “cheating” firing this thing up. Rusty’s table sounds very intriguing. I’ve been meaning to get the Rockler cone. Hey CPlus, have you decided on bits yet? You won’t be very happy with the JET ones, sadly. Someone who knows much more about this may recommend some quality bits. I bought the ShopFox ones, simply because they were close by on Amazon. Enjoy your machines, fellas. And Rusty, you’re sure right about binoculars. I went through five $100 pairs before I bought a $500 pair;) I never claimed to be smart.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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C_PLUS_Woodworker

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#12 posted 1024 days ago

I thought I would get a sharpening kit and play around with these Jets for a while and learn a little….that way I can screw up in a bigger way with more expensive chisels.

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Bertha

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#13 posted 1024 days ago

Good call, Cplus. That’s what I did. I tortured those poor little stock JETS.

-- My dad and I built a 65 chev pick up.I killed trannys in that thing for some reason-Hog

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teejk

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#14 posted 1024 days ago

C PLUS…I got the Delta (same machine as Jet from the same factory as far as I can tell) several years ago and it came with 4 bit-sets, all for about $300 as I recall (they still work just fine but with Kreg etc. I find they don’ t get used all that much anymore).

I have come to the conclusion that there is no such thing as a “perfect” machine-made M/T on machines that sell for a few hundred $$$ (I have the Delta tenon jig also) unless one takes the time to plane all pieces to the exact same dimension (which brings in the precision of another $500 tool, two if you want to run it through a jointer before you head to a planer).

Not that I get “sloppy” to the point where I could throw the tenon at the mortise and “connect”... but I have learned to trust the qualities of modern wood glues and staged sanding!

Anyway, I wouldn’t bother sharpening the OEM chisels or bits.

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