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Forum topic by Baseballhack posted 06-27-2018 05:25 PM 519 views 0 times favorited 11 replies Add to Favorites Watch
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Baseballhack

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06-27-2018 05:25 PM

Starting to get into wood working. And want to start some more advanced projects from plans I have. I have rough lumber that I need to process. The more I read the more overwhelmed I get. I am looking to possibly ad a Jointer plane such as a Stanley #7 to help prepare boards for my Dewalt planer. Are there any reputable people dealers you would recommend to find a used Plane? I remember seeing a video on youtube of a bearded guy I believe restoring and selling planes on eBay but cant seem to find him. Any help or insight would be greatly appreciated.


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gargey

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#1 posted 06-27-2018 05:33 PM

Its a lot more work, effort, money, and time than you think it will be. You’re gonna need a lot more tools than you think you will. It will take a lot more time to develop your skills than you think it will, too.

Just FYI.

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sepeck

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#2 posted 06-27-2018 05:42 PM

For used planes here many get them from ebay and tune them up themselves, but if you are new give http://www.timetestedtools.net/ a look. He’s very active on the forums and is often recommended.

-- -Steven Peck, http://www.blkmtn.org

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corelz125

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#3 posted 06-27-2018 08:17 PM

See what Don has at timetestedtools you can’t go wrong there. Just has to see what he has for sale right now.

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OSU55

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#4 posted 06-27-2018 08:33 PM

I use hand planes quite a bit, but typically not to prep lumber for my planer. I suppose if I had a hi corner or something, but I use a simple planer sled – a piece of formica covered shelving about 6 ft long. It has a 1/4” thick piece of wood screwed to the face at one end, and then I use a 1/4” thick piece place at the other end held down with double sided tape. I use shims to take at the “rocking”. Once slat enough to not rock, the board is sent through the planer on its own.

For jointing, if both sides are really rough, I’ll use a table saw jig to get one side straight and go from there. Once “rough jointed” on the saw, I finish joint with a plane (usually a #7) for glue ups.

The primary way the typical hobbyist can benefit from hand planes is leveling panel glue ups. Most only have a 12” or 13” planer (and no drum sander), so how to get that over 12” panel flat? Sanding won’t do it. A router sled can do pretty well, but there is a lot of sanding cut lines. Hand planes allow the hobbyist to flatten just about any sized panel, and do away with most if not all sanding. My favorite planes for the task are a #7 (flatten) and #4-1/2 (smooth). They use the same iron and chip breaker, so having some spare irons ready to go is no problem. While I have an ROS and belt sander, they get almost no use. A little hand sanding and the surface is ready to finish.

Here are blog entries for tuning and choosing planes. As gargey said, it does take a few $’s (even used Stanley Baileys) and time to learn to sharpen, tune, and use them. The time and $ I spent has been well worth it, just don’t get into it thinking for $100 or less and a couple hours of your time you will be set to go.

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JCamp

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#5 posted 06-27-2018 10:12 PM

I recommend checking with Don as well.
I personally wouldn’t think you need hand planes to prep boards for a electric planer…. mayb I’m missing something tho.
I will throw out that I don’t believe that the new Stanley hand planes are nearly the same quality as the old ones so if you decide to go with hand ones I’d suggest getting some quality old ones and cleaning them up. You’ll learn to sharpen the blades real good during clean up too

-- Whatsoever thy hand findeth to do, do it with all thy might

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bandit571

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#6 posted 06-27-2018 10:24 PM

There is an episode of The Woodwright’s Shop on pbs.org….with Chris Schwarz as a guest….going over “Hand Plane Essentials” Would be well worth the 1/2” hour to sit and watch..and listen.

Myself..I tend to size the plane to the size of the work being done. Have used #3 up to the #8 sized planes..a lot.

My #7 and my #5 sized planes see the most work….the #3 and #4 come in later….just depends on the size of the work. Sometimes, even a block plane will do the job I need done.

Planes have a very addicting sound, when being used….makes you want to use more of them, and more often…

Then you wind up like this….they are addicting…

-- A Planer? I'M the planer, this is what I use

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Baseballhack

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#7 posted 06-27-2018 10:29 PM

Thanks for all the replies. Think I will go with the Jig route for the prep work and maybe add a hand plane or two for finishing and fun. I am not completely new to hand planes, I have really cheap big box store planes that drive me nuts. I watched a ton of videos sharpened and tuned them up the best I could but they cause me more heartache than progress. Just hoping a good quality plane will help alleviate some of the frustration.

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BlasterStumps

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#8 posted 06-27-2018 10:59 PM

http://www.leevalley.com/us/Wood/page.aspx?p=52515&cat=41182

Low angle Jack is good all-rounder.

-- "I build for function first, looks second. Most times I never get around to looks." - Mike, western Colorado

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TheFridge

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#9 posted 06-28-2018 04:50 PM

I have a couple cleaned and tuned Stanley 5’s and a 4 for sale.

-- Shooting down the walls of heartache. Bang bang. I am. The warrior.

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Baseballhack

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#10 posted 06-28-2018 04:54 PM

Any pics and prices?


I have a couple cleaned and tuned Stanley 5’s and a 4 for sale.

- TheFridge


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HonestlyMediocre

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#11 posted 07-17-2018 07:25 AM

Planes are very addicting. I bought a nearly full set from a collector that was downsizing (#5-8 with a 5 1/2), after a couple weeks I’ve ended up with several more metal planes, two #45 combo planes, and a nice collection of wood moulding planes I couldn’t turn away—including a really nice Sandusky Plough.

Long story short, you really only ‘need’ about 3 planes for making boards flat by hand. A 3, 5, and 7 is a good set. 4, 6, 8 is another set. You could do a lot with a #5 with two different irons and then a 7 or 8. Some folks say you can do everything with a #5 and tune it for each use: scrubing, trying, and jointing. A lot of different methods and opinions out there.

I have a Stanley #5, and a Victory #7 I’ve been meaning to sell. Send me a PM if you are interested.

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